E5 /E10 in petrol, it IS coming
Discussion
Good old Euro shirts have accepted the reduction in carbon emmissions by the addition of E5 ( Bio Ethanol additive) in petrol by 2011. E5 is produced organically.
Fine, but all and I mean all, of fuel components/ hoses in historic cars are not compatible with this additive.Whilst the big co`s Ford etc have been undertaking tests on various materials the time clock ticks by.Potentially, the thought of fuel fires beggars belief.Insurance companies will definetly see a way out of costly repairs due to owner ignorance.
For the jaguar, Aston owner, this could be the death knell, as by 2013 E10 will be introduced .That is 10% bio ethanol in fuel, then the hoses, fuel pump and associated problems will no doubt occur by the hundreds if not thousands.
I will be carrying out some simple tests as advised by one of the tech engineers at Ford, to measure firstly the component, then immerse components into a Bio mix for 30 days, withdraw and check for degradation/ swelling.
Fine, but all and I mean all, of fuel components/ hoses in historic cars are not compatible with this additive.Whilst the big co`s Ford etc have been undertaking tests on various materials the time clock ticks by.Potentially, the thought of fuel fires beggars belief.Insurance companies will definetly see a way out of costly repairs due to owner ignorance.
For the jaguar, Aston owner, this could be the death knell, as by 2013 E10 will be introduced .That is 10% bio ethanol in fuel, then the hoses, fuel pump and associated problems will no doubt occur by the hundreds if not thousands.
I will be carrying out some simple tests as advised by one of the tech engineers at Ford, to measure firstly the component, then immerse components into a Bio mix for 30 days, withdraw and check for degradation/ swelling.
This is good stuff, I suppose shell would reccommend filling your car fully before storage, sounds like clap trap to me.I believe there are a number of compoents on historic vehicles that are not ethanol compatible, either currently available or original. Silver soldered fuel joints, leaded tank sealant,brass fittings, nylon couplings, rubber hoses etc etc.Come on Shell what is and what isn`t compatible? all or nothing ?.
It`s bad enough to suffer fitting s
t parts,becuase of their manufactrung quality is so poor. Do you think the component manufacturers actually care their components meet the new ethanol additive?.I doubt it.
It`s up to the petroleum companies to advise the industry, I don`t mean the big manufacturers, I MEAN THE PUBLIC, hopefuly then the aftermarket suppliers will sit up and take notice. If we, the repairers don`t buy the products , they will have to change.
I notice Pigeons remarks regarding the ethanol content of modern fuels. Perhaps barefoot could enlighten us as to what is the current content and how Shell has directed the Classic acr industry in respect of the non compatible components.If there is a component compatibilty issue and a % of ethanol already exits in fuel, why have the oil industry not advised us in the past? Filling up your tank is not a good answer, unless your selling the stuff.If Ford can carry out extensive tests, Fiat choose to ignore it then where do we the consumers stand?
It`s bad enough to suffer fitting s
t parts,becuase of their manufactrung quality is so poor. Do you think the component manufacturers actually care their components meet the new ethanol additive?.I doubt it.It`s up to the petroleum companies to advise the industry, I don`t mean the big manufacturers, I MEAN THE PUBLIC, hopefuly then the aftermarket suppliers will sit up and take notice. If we, the repairers don`t buy the products , they will have to change.
I notice Pigeons remarks regarding the ethanol content of modern fuels. Perhaps barefoot could enlighten us as to what is the current content and how Shell has directed the Classic acr industry in respect of the non compatible components.If there is a component compatibilty issue and a % of ethanol already exits in fuel, why have the oil industry not advised us in the past? Filling up your tank is not a good answer, unless your selling the stuff.If Ford can carry out extensive tests, Fiat choose to ignore it then where do we the consumers stand?
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