Engine conversions for Exige/Elise S1 and S2

[GTRene]

What type Elise/Exige with engine conversions are there for the S1 and S2, I know these;

>>Honda power 2.0L 190hp>>>240hp or 300hp SC(S1 and S2)

www.jimbocam.com/blink/dash-cam-pip1.mpg video 1

www.jimbocam.com/elvington/vA/elvA-j5goon1-vcd.mpg video 2




>>Ford Duratec 2.3L (Supertorque version) 190hp>>>275hp (S1 and S2)



>>Zcars bike engine 175>>>400hp (S1 and S2)



>>Audi 20 Valve turbo 1.8L 250>>>300+hp (S1)
www.auto-teknix.co.uk/index-files/tony1.mpg video


>>RST-V8 2.4L 320>>>400hp(only 74kg!) (S1)
www.motopower.co.uk

>>VW VR6 3.0L 230hp (S1)
(a few years ago in germany...?)

>>GM 3.0 V6 400hp (special build sport exige S2)


Those are the ones I know that are different from the 1.8L Rover K-series and the 1.8L Toyota engines
Do you know some more? and have some pics of the engine installed let us know.
GTRene

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stuart1969 said:

I remember the "Esthi" or something that was an Elise with the 2.7l twin turbo engine form the Audi RS4, built in Germany I believe.

Yes your right on that, the Audi biturbo engine produced 420hp in that top version! but they don't make that anymore...
But there was one for sale last year, a milder one,a 06-2004 111R in Esthi version very wide and only 8.000km on the clock color yellow, I see if I can find that one, they just asked the same price as a normal 111R but when you damage the car its a bit harder to get new clams...I have his e-mail too never used it though...
This one was on sale last year 15-09-2005 for asking price(2005) 41.900,-euro(28.300,-gbp) I still have that info, and it come's with some nice goodies too...

GTRene
Also one big advantage when you want to see the engine, it can do this...

And I found a PH link out 2003 so you can read about it in your language...

www.pistonheads.com/lotus/elise/Default.asp?storyId=6384

have fun


>> Edited by GTRene on Thursday 26th January 13:03

>> Edited by GTRene on Thursday 26th January 13:11

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Just looking around, and I found a 2000 Elise/Exige powered with A Alfa Romeo V6, the Italiën job its from +200hp>>>300Hp!

also a link from PH about that story how it ends?? I can't remember I ever heard of one?

www.pistonheads.com/lotus/elise/Default.asp?storyId=4763

GTRené

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Sharm said:

Photos of it here www.lotuselise.it/stelvio2k/v6motore.jpg www.lotuselise.it/stelvio2k/v6interni.jpg Edit: and here: www.lotuselise.it/stelvio2k/v6vanomotore.jpg

Nice found! and strange looking too see an Alfa engine in a Lotus, 2 carcountries together in the mix
GTRene

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Maybe most of you saw this Exige S1 before, but some of you don't I think, so here is this lovely example of a fast S1 Exige with Honda conversion;

www.prototyperacing.com/k20kit.htm

www.prototyperacing.com/radar.htm


fast and cool with 240hp and 0 to 60 in 3,7sec and 0 to 100 in just 8,9sec
GTRene

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I don't know? but I guess its light and 247hp when you look at the dyno of one of their honda conversions? anyway, look at this pipework nice, I hate spaghetty, but I like those

GTRene

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bogie said:

every one of those manifolds supplied to customers in the UK broke and was replaced by another design GTRene - go over to SELOC and do a search on this....theres enough reading to keep you going until next christmas !

Thanks for the advise guys... but you have to be a member on SELOC thats why I can't look there...and I don't want to member of to many things because my head can't take that much but maybe I will soon to SELOc thanks again
GTRene

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Still waiting on the Lotus Exige RST-V8(2.4L) the firts 2 letters are even the same as my name, René Stam RS ...now where is my money to order such car sadly I'm not that rich to just order such thing, so have to wait a few years for a second hand??
Only heard they put one in a Elise...like to see it sitting in a S2 Exige
GTRene

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Though this "Elise" has a very fast V8 but its the GT1 elise not for the road sadly
stil a nice picture

Lotus Elise GT1. Only one road car was build by Lotus and it wasn't this one. The Lotus Elise GT1 shown in Paris was a race car in Frank Muller livery - yellow over black. We were told that the car is not one of those which raced in the FIA series. The car is said to be chassis number eleven complete with carbon body, carbon brakes, 6 speed seqential Hewland and a Lotus V8 twin turbo with nearly 600hp.

GTRene

>> Edited by GTRene on Friday 24th February 18:01

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(bogie)I agree with that its very difficult to build a lightweight small unit with big power output and long lasting engine joy...specialy when hard driven!
GTRene

>> Edited by GTRene on Friday 24th February 18:29

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Hi Hans, its a officialy a race car GT1, only one was build for the road, the rest was build for racing...
The car on the picture was also a special build but not for FIA racing I believe, and I think the one road version is a black car?? I believ also a dutch guy drove a car like that...? Jan Lammers I think but not sure, anyway a lot power in such light car
GTRene
you also can read a bit more about it here;

www.pistonheads.com/lotus/elise/Default.asp?storyId=4764
this is the V8 engine Elise GT1 also one roadversion

and this the only road going Elise GT1?



>> Edited by GTRene on Friday 24th February 19:30

>> Edited by GTRene on Friday 24th February 19:37

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Oke its told many times before, but I wanted it in this thread also, the RST-V8 you can get them in 2? known variants? a V8 2.0L and a V8 2.4L the 2.0 I have a videolink from that engine but sadly not in the Elise but in a radical, but just listen and see how fast this 2.0 V8 320hp engine is

http://atvp.tim.free.fr/rst-v8-bedfor

RST V8 from Russell Savory of Motopower

First up is the RST-V8 created by well known bike team Motopower run by Russell Savory Tony Hart (F1 engine builder Brian’s brother) and Titan Motorsport have been working on resurrecting it. The test unit is fitted to a Caterham SV, weighs just 74kg and is amazingly just 19in high, 19in wide and 19in long, while kicking out a conservative 340bhp and 190lb/ft torque. The RST-V8 is based on a pair of Yamaha YZF1000 EXUP units although the only original parts remaining are the cylinder heads although these are scheduled to be replaced by bespoke parts soon. The engine has a flat plane crank, which synchronises the firing pulses in opposing banks of cylinder banks, which aids balance. Price for this one starts at £17,625 inc VAT, although you can specify roller barrel throttles and other items if you desire. We’ll be testing this unit in the Caterham SV shortly, and look forward to it, but thus far the engine has done 12,000 hard driven miles in testing without mishap. Visit www.rst-v8.com





I like to see that in a Exige S2 soon anyone have a video of a Elise or Exige with this engine? or a picture?

GTRene

>> Edited by GTRene on Sunday 5th March 23:18

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yeah they sometimes think that...
its sad that those lovely V8 lightweight screamers don't come so far that they are going to get a bit cheaper and come more in too produktion in Exige's and Elise's but then its tripple the price or more then a honda or audi or duratec conversion...
But you surely get much fun with such engine in the back of your lotus on a track and road and can compete very good with the rest of the field though the Elise is a bit more heavy then the tested caterham...
I would give a 15.000,-euro extra when they build me one reliable RST-V8? in the back of a Elise or Exige S2 but then, they won't do that for that money I'm afraid
GTRene

>> Edited by GTRene on Monday 6th March 00:20

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guess your right on that...and personaly, I would or could not pay that kind of money just for 30.000miles or so...
So that would bring us back to the 275hp duratec, 300hp Honda SC, 330hp audi, or even a 280hp SC toyota engine conversion
You know how a 300hp SC drive's, and I have seen a video clip of such 300hp audi conversion, but I am curious how a 275hp duratec drive's...
Guess that would be easyer when all 4 (300honda, 300audi, 275duratec, 280yota) would be on the same track, same day, same conditions, and then a big carmagazine article about thoose conversions with all the data about the times(0 to 60/100), money(conversion cost) and good feeling factors about them, that way its a bit easyer to choose from, and it would be a wonderfull item a collecters item? its mostly is a personal thing, where do you use it most of the times(normal road, highways, track) and what do you like(a nice powercurve or a big short powercurve, torgue high low? a sreamer?) reliabillity, fuel consumption, and ofcorse maintanance of such car.
Anny toughts are welcome, and I hope some carmagazine's read this and do something about that please....
GTRene

>> Edited by GTRene on Monday 6th March 00:54

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Good news?? I was just talking a bit to a caterham man wich have the Duratec engine in it, with 300+hp
So I asked the quistion how did you get this power? turbo? sc? nope, all wrong...huh?
yep he's got a normal aspirated duratec engine though tuned to 300+hp he says, so me thinking...duratec conversion also for Elise/Exige...if he can get that much power out then we can get that too? so where did you do that
here is the link and I reconnised the S1 Exige with that duratec, see here the link, but I don't know what it cost though to get 290<>300hp out of it...
I like a non turbo SC option, but I don't know much about it yet...its maybe like a S1 160 with almost dubble the power??

www.raceco.com/dura.html

and here some more; www.raceco.com

GTRene

>> Edited by GTRene on Wednesday 19th April 16:37

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Some more fine "news" of conversions all in...Honda(also SC) Duratec, Audi, also a fast K Series to come dare I say 240? read the story on another thread here, nice pictures too

http://elise.pinkcore.com/forum_posts
GTRene

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I'm only on PH activ(and don't want/can't handle more)...and looking on the net sometimes to find things and then come acros some other things I'm also interested in like this stuf, and I was blinded by the for me new pictures that I did not care about the rest
But why did he sell that duratec and want to replace it for the honda? the Honda must be even better then? what is he saying about that...
And if you could do it again, no money involved, what conversion would you want in a Elise/Exige....you've seen and tried some I guess?
thanks
GTRene
Oh...now I looked at the date on that thread its posted on 25-05-2005 so thats not even a year old when you mentioned it I thought 2002 or so...but its not that old...


>> Edited by GTRene on Wednesday 19th April 19:58

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scuffham said:

why don't you just nip over to Seloc, then spend a day reading up on all this? you already have an account there?? Rene_S1 - Rene Beumer yes?

Nope, I don't have an account there...I'm René Stam(RS like porsche or other fast brands) or GTRene on PH thats my only forum sad I know but I can't handle that much(old)
GTRene

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Thanks bogie indeed I ment only the payeble options that can be done in lets say a week waiting, good thing to have driven all those type of lotus cars, that way you know a bit more what it does to you.
So the Honda SC has the best all round package also in drivebillity? then I stay with that option for the moment and when that time come and I would buy a S2 Elise to convert, the way it now is, I would go for the Honda also now someone who can and will do that job in NL they also maked a few already.
Firts see how it goes with selling my car and what is for sale by that time(I've got more options)

S works thanks too, for leading me into the darkside SELOC...maybe I will do it in time, but not very soon I can not concentrate on to many things sadly and being not English it cost more time for me to read and understand, and the last few years I'm not that strong mentaly?(a by product of some serious accidents when I was 16 also 3 days in a coma and a crack in the shel? braindamage too and when getting older...hm...haha do a bit less with them)
I know you all ment the best, and thanks for that...but my head is like a old computer...can't handle that much at once... and a bit slower with reading and getting it things like that.
But I'm used to it, and adapt to it and cars can still touch my soul so I'm very lucky with that and that I can drive one and own such car I have...though as you all know my next car must be light and have some desent power..thats why I'm that much on Lotus its one of the cars I'm serious interested in and after at(when I sold my car finally)
thanks guys
GTRene

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dannylt said:

GTRene said: Good news?? I was just talking a bit to a caterham man wich have the Duratec engine in it, with 300+hp So I asked the quistion how did you get this power? turbo? sc? nope, all wrong...huh? yep he's got a normal aspirated duratec engine though tuned to 300+hp he says, so me thinking...duratec conversion also for Elise/Exige...if he can get that much power out then we can get that too? Hi Rene, Actually, my wife has an Elise too! But it's Honda powered, and suits the car perfectly I think (and for sale at www.pistonheads.com/sales/72150.htm). For more power, the SC Honda is clearly the way to go - no point being different for the sake of it when you can go for established reliability. I started with a Duratec in my Caterham, so it made sense to stick with that. There is no way my 307bhp Duratec would fit in an Elise without serious bulkhead surgery - the inlets are very long.

You both must make some nice couple then to powerfull lightweight cars, what are U2 talking about at diner
But thanks for making some things clear about the duratec and the Honda that will make my choice when I stand for it, more easyer to make...Honda SC is the way I'm thinking now, because I also like to keep that boot as it will be my only car... so even if a small V8 would be there for a price like the Honda conversion, I think you will loose the boot installing such machine even though some bike V8's are small.
I will focus on Honda SC also there is a "lot" of experience in and parts specialy made for Honda conversion.
Oh, and also the car you are selling, looks like a nice clean car also a fare price I think, sadly for me its RHD and S1 and in the UK...but when it was overhere in NL and LHD it was very tempting for me, specialy there are not many around in NL I guess maybe 10 max?
cheers
GTRene