How best to 'swing' into a narrow entrance ?

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The initial message was deleted from this topic on 12 July 2019 at 23:06

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Dixy said:

This is tosh, I live in Somerset where the lanes scratch both sides of the car as you drive down and the junctions are just as tight so using the off sideof the road is not an option, slow car fast hands and use all the lock.

Sorry but you weren't there, the entrance he was turning into was less than a foot wider than his vehicle, little or no turning splay, the road he was leaving was around 3m per lane . There was no physical way that a front wheel steering vehicle of his size could have turned into that entrance without crossing the opposite carriageway first. I regularly drive large vehicles, LGVs,agricultural machinery etc and I can assure you that there are hundreds if not thousands of junctions around the country where this is absolutely necessary. Just looking for a few pointers on how best to do it when it is necessary.

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jamei303 said:

large vehicle, slowing down, tight left junction, indicating left, why would anyone think it was going anywhere other then left??

Yes, normally, but this one was pretty extreme. The lane he was turning into (I think it was a private farm track) was unsigned and practically invisible from behind him and he crossed all the way to the right hand side of the opposite lane first. As I say, everything went ok on this occasion, but if he's making that turn regularly I bet he has a few near misses.

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I should have known you can't have a thread on PH without a stupid argument or three. Can we all just accept there are some junctions in the UK that you can't turn into in a large vehicle without swinging out first? Maybe change the large 4x4 in my original post to an eight wheel 32 tonne tipper to make it easier for the hard of thinking?
I was asking on the 'advanced driving' section of a motoring enthusiasts' forum to try and get a sensible answer. What's the best way to signal your intentions and carry out the manoeuvre when you have to swing out to make a turn?
Thanks for the first few responses, already some good advice before the arguments started.