Dangerous overtaken driver
Discussion
Today I was driving out of a 20 zone in to a 40, dead straight road for about a mile and the Audi estate in front of me continued at 25 mph, I indicated and moved out to look for the overtake, once out and straight I sped up to go past, as my rear 1/4 got past his front wing the Audi floored it, I was committed so gunned it, the Audi stayed with me and I had to use 70 leptons to clear the front. As soon as I was passed I slowed back down and Audi man dropped well back.
I guess I could have anchored up and pulled back in but I was virtually past their car....not a nice thing for them to do to me.
At the next set of lights I was tempted to try and speak to the driver but thought it was better to just let it go.
It seems people do not like overtakers anymore.
I guess I could have anchored up and pulled back in but I was virtually past their car....not a nice thing for them to do to me.
At the next set of lights I was tempted to try and speak to the driver but thought it was better to just let it go.
It seems people do not like overtakers anymore.
waremark said:
Difficult to decide whether to accelerate or brake. Do you now think that braking would have worked better? If you had happened to run foul of a radar gun there would have been no getout for you.
Yes, probably a sharp brake, pull back in and try to be calm and keep a big distance would have been better. I would have had to split second do another mirror check to make sure no bike or car had decided come with me or use up my space behind (when I pulled out there was no other traffic around at all). I was mostly focused on a turning quite a way ahead to make sure no car appeared ready to pull out.As Reg Local says "they know not what they do", you just have to make sure the red mist does not descend.
Surely you need to indicate that you are pulling out just in case they are about to plan a right turn or know that swerving could be an issue, you need them to know you are there? (or even let a motorbike that could, in theory, be in your blind spot or fast approaching, know that you are about to move? - appreciate I may be totally wrong here
The majority of drivers are not aware of what is going on behind them and I would not be surprised if the driver only gunned it when they realised I was alongside, it may have taken them a while to kick / shift down but I got the impression that they only sped up as I was nearly passed them.
The majority of drivers are not aware of what is going on behind them and I would not be surprised if the driver only gunned it when they realised I was alongside, it may have taken them a while to kick / shift down but I got the impression that they only sped up as I was nearly passed them.
Edited by Caddyshack on Friday 22 November 11:50
Just re-watched Reg's video on overtaking and see that he does not use the indicator. I wonder if he would if there was a car behind him who would maybe also consider the overtake?
Recently I followed a slow moving bus one car back (i.e. there was a car in front of me then the bus) the driver in front of me did not seem to want to overtake so I waited for a place to pass both at same time as the one in front had not left a big enough space for me to pop in (they should have left 2 car lengths to allow someone to chose to overtake - the cushion of safety I think it is called?) I made my intentions known by my road position then gave a flash of the lights and indicated when I made the overtake as I didn't want the one in front to suddenly pull out and attempt an overtake themselves whilst I was passing (they had not so much as moved out to look)
Therefore, in this instance was I right to indicate? There were 2 or 3 other cars also travelling behind me.
Recently I followed a slow moving bus one car back (i.e. there was a car in front of me then the bus) the driver in front of me did not seem to want to overtake so I waited for a place to pass both at same time as the one in front had not left a big enough space for me to pop in (they should have left 2 car lengths to allow someone to chose to overtake - the cushion of safety I think it is called?) I made my intentions known by my road position then gave a flash of the lights and indicated when I made the overtake as I didn't want the one in front to suddenly pull out and attempt an overtake themselves whilst I was passing (they had not so much as moved out to look)
Therefore, in this instance was I right to indicate? There were 2 or 3 other cars also travelling behind me.
Dr Jekyll said:
Caddyshack said:
Just re-watched Reg's video on overtaking and see that he does not use the indicator. I wonder if he would if there was a car behind him who would maybe also consider the overtake?
Recently I followed a slow moving bus one car back (i.e. there was a car in front of me then the bus) the driver in front of me did not seem to want to overtake so I waited for a place to pass both at same time as the one in front had not left a big enough space for me to pop in (they should have left 2 car lengths to allow someone to chose to overtake - the cushion of safety I think it is called?) I made my intentions known by my road position then gave a flash of the lights and indicated when I made the overtake as I didn't want the one in front to suddenly pull out and attempt an overtake themselves whilst I was passing (they had not so much as moved out to look)
Therefore, in this instance was I right to indicate? There were 2 or 3 other cars also travelling behind me.
If you were happy they weren't going to overtake, why indicate? If you weren't, why overtake?Recently I followed a slow moving bus one car back (i.e. there was a car in front of me then the bus) the driver in front of me did not seem to want to overtake so I waited for a place to pass both at same time as the one in front had not left a big enough space for me to pop in (they should have left 2 car lengths to allow someone to chose to overtake - the cushion of safety I think it is called?) I made my intentions known by my road position then gave a flash of the lights and indicated when I made the overtake as I didn't want the one in front to suddenly pull out and attempt an overtake themselves whilst I was passing (they had not so much as moved out to look)
Therefore, in this instance was I right to indicate? There were 2 or 3 other cars also travelling behind me.
Makes sense to me to show them I am there and my intentions.
Poor drivers gun it, then pull out without much awareness. I would rather there was something flashing in their mirrors to tell them I am there.
Dr Jekyll said:
Caddyshack said:
Just re-watched Reg's video on overtaking and see that he does not use the indicator. I wonder if he would if there was a car behind him who would maybe also consider the overtake?
Recently I followed a slow moving bus one car back (i.e. there was a car in front of me then the bus) the driver in front of me did not seem to want to overtake so I waited for a place to pass both at same time as the one in front had not left a big enough space for me to pop in (they should have left 2 car lengths to allow someone to chose to overtake - the cushion of safety I think it is called?) I made my intentions known by my road position then gave a flash of the lights and indicated when I made the overtake as I didn't want the one in front to suddenly pull out and attempt an overtake themselves whilst I was passing (they had not so much as moved out to look)
Therefore, in this instance was I right to indicate? There were 2 or 3 other cars also travelling behind me.
If you were happy they weren't going to overtake, why indicate? If you weren't, why overtake?Recently I followed a slow moving bus one car back (i.e. there was a car in front of me then the bus) the driver in front of me did not seem to want to overtake so I waited for a place to pass both at same time as the one in front had not left a big enough space for me to pop in (they should have left 2 car lengths to allow someone to chose to overtake - the cushion of safety I think it is called?) I made my intentions known by my road position then gave a flash of the lights and indicated when I made the overtake as I didn't want the one in front to suddenly pull out and attempt an overtake themselves whilst I was passing (they had not so much as moved out to look)
Therefore, in this instance was I right to indicate? There were 2 or 3 other cars also travelling behind me.
Dr Jekyll said:
Caddyshack said:
Dr Jekyll said:
Caddyshack said:
Just re-watched Reg's video on overtaking and see that he does not use the indicator. I wonder if he would if there was a car behind him who would maybe also consider the overtake?
Recently I followed a slow moving bus one car back (i.e. there was a car in front of me then the bus) the driver in front of me did not seem to want to overtake so I waited for a place to pass both at same time as the one in front had not left a big enough space for me to pop in (they should have left 2 car lengths to allow someone to chose to overtake - the cushion of safety I think it is called?) I made my intentions known by my road position then gave a flash of the lights and indicated when I made the overtake as I didn't want the one in front to suddenly pull out and attempt an overtake themselves whilst I was passing (they had not so much as moved out to look)
Therefore, in this instance was I right to indicate? There were 2 or 3 other cars also travelling behind me.
If you were happy they weren't going to overtake, why indicate? If you weren't, why overtake?Recently I followed a slow moving bus one car back (i.e. there was a car in front of me then the bus) the driver in front of me did not seem to want to overtake so I waited for a place to pass both at same time as the one in front had not left a big enough space for me to pop in (they should have left 2 car lengths to allow someone to chose to overtake - the cushion of safety I think it is called?) I made my intentions known by my road position then gave a flash of the lights and indicated when I made the overtake as I didn't want the one in front to suddenly pull out and attempt an overtake themselves whilst I was passing (they had not so much as moved out to look)
Therefore, in this instance was I right to indicate? There were 2 or 3 other cars also travelling behind me.
WilliamWoollard said:
Enut said:
I seem to be in a minority here in that I agree with the use of the indicator when overtaking, especially when you may have positioned the car on a number of occassions, anticipating a chance to overtake, but then not overtaken. If the car in front is aware of what is behind him, then the indication will then tell him that, on this occassion, you ARE going to overtake.
Why does he need to know?TonyTony said:
Something similar that I find happens alot is on slip roads, I will be ahead of the car that is in the main lane and I have clearance to pull in. I cruise ahead of them ready to just merge at the end and I don't want to look like I'm trying to race them and just basically be respectful on the road... As you reach merging point they accelerate and try to fill your only gap to merge which is going to cause you to have to completely stop. I usually just keep driving into the gap if they do this and they back off.
Recently in a new more bold coloured fast car people seem to actually back off when you're on a slip road just to let you go past them though..
I wonder if that is some subconcious competitive streak or just people being horrid?Recently in a new more bold coloured fast car people seem to actually back off when you're on a slip road just to let you go past them though..
Jaetten said:
Been in same position as op overtaking a no faster than 25mph driver in 50mph zone just after cromford hill. He sped up as I passed, I braked, he braked, I sped up, he sped up, I braked, he braked, dropped into second and got to 60mph to pass.
Needless to say, not overtaken anything other than a tractor since. I just sit behind now and give enough gap for whoever is behind me to overtake me and if they choose, overtake them. Not worth the risk.
With enough evidence they could be convicted, especially if it lead to you or others being hurt or worse.Needless to say, not overtaken anything other than a tractor since. I just sit behind now and give enough gap for whoever is behind me to overtake me and if they choose, overtake them. Not worth the risk.
Iirc someone was caught swerving towards an oncoming person, the police got a prosecution on something like attempted murder or other.
RSTurboPaul said:
Caddyshack said:
Jaetten said:
Been in same position as op overtaking a no faster than 25mph driver in 50mph zone just after cromford hill. He sped up as I passed, I braked, he braked, I sped up, he sped up, I braked, he braked, dropped into second and got to 60mph to pass.
Needless to say, not overtaken anything other than a tractor since. I just sit behind now and give enough gap for whoever is behind me to overtake me and if they choose, overtake them. Not worth the risk.
With enough evidence they could be convicted, especially if it lead to you or others being hurt or worse.Needless to say, not overtaken anything other than a tractor since. I just sit behind now and give enough gap for whoever is behind me to overtake me and if they choose, overtake them. Not worth the risk.
Iirc someone was caught swerving towards an oncoming person, the police got a prosecution on something like attempted murder or other.
I am the op and I also have 2 Porsche’s but that is missing the point, if you overtake coming out of a 20 zone in to a 40 as the driver in front is not going above 20 then you do not give your Porsche full throttle and 8000 rpm as you would end up over speeding....the point is when you are mid way past and the car you are overtaking floors it you still have to think split second to then really go for it or hang back....Porsche or not. You also do not want to have to be doing 70 in the 40 zone just because some idiot has some complex.
I was in Rangie at time.
I was in Rangie at time.
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