Heel and Toe Question

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anniesdad

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239 months

Monday 26th September 2005
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What is the advantage of;

brake >-- apply the clutch >-- move gearlever into neutral >-- lift clutch >-- blip throttle >-- reapply the clutch >-- select lower gear >-- lift clutch

I seem to be able to get a seemless downchange simply by;

brake >-- apply clutch >-- >move gearlever into neutral >-- blip throttle >-- select lower gear >-- lift clutch

Basically I don't pull the clutch pedal up and reapply before selecting the lower gear. Am I being less sensitive to the car in some way?

anniesdad

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14,589 posts

239 months

Monday 26th September 2005
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It is double de-clutching but in an article by John Barker that I have is basically the example used by him as the correct "heel and toe" technique. The article is titled "How to Heel and Toe".

It recommends double de-clutching even with a synchro gearbox as it "smooths out things even more".

anniesdad

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14,589 posts

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Monday 26th September 2005
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That's what I thought. That by having all this extra foot and hand work involved would be in fact a disadvantage, when the ultimate aim is "quick and smooth" driving.

anniesdad

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Tuesday 27th September 2005
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Andrew Noakes said:



And anyway, I have a non-synchro first gear...


Out of interest do you find that when pressing on, hence the need to heel and toe/double de-clutch, that you are requiring first gear?

anniesdad

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Tuesday 27th September 2005
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Andrew Noakes said:


In manual gearbox cars I heel and toe all the time if the pedal layout allows - not just when 'making progress'.


I was going to edit my post actually but you beat me to the punch here as I do the same.