Someone turning right into a layby while you're overtaking

[L555BAT]

I'd imagine that most people would anticipate this happening due to the overtakee slowing down, braking, indicating etc. to turn right - and not overtake for that reason.
But what if you didn't or there were no clues (e.g. no braking as the overtakee going slowly and turning into a long layby therefore not needing to slow down before entering the layby ?

I'd think that in the latter case, the driver turning right without looking behind would be to blame. But I guess most people would put the blame on the overtaker.
I'm a bit torn on it though - I suppose it's not any different from a situation when someone turns right without indicating, while being overtaken. In that case it would probably be the overtaker's fault for overtaking past a junction. I know of a few cases of that happening, and the blame was different in each one.

What's your take on this situation?


Reason I'm asking is I came across this quote while looking for more sources about the reservoir crash in Wales ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-mid-wales-13168...

A very unfortunate incident, and condolences to all the victims of course.
Obviously we don't know the details, and the guy had just got back from a ban.
I'm not looking to place blame on one of the drivers involved in this particular accident, it just brought up the thought.

witness said:

The other driver said he was overtaking when the woman suddenly turned right into a layby. He collided with her and shunted her car into the water
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3541381/...

Take a look at the map here: http://goo.gl/maps/icbS

You can see that there's a layby on the right when you're heading to the south east.

Edited by L555BAT on Saturday 23 April 00:13

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Benbay001 said:

Please, never post The Sun as a source.

Sorry

I know it isn't a reliable source but as I said I was looking for more news sources on the story, and often less-than reputable ones such as The Sun can have more information as they're not so bothered about what they print being exactly 100% true and fully verifiable.

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supertouring said:

Why does the SUN picture only show 1 lane on the road?

Looking at the pic, it show solid white nearest to the camera and dashed white on edge on the layby, while in google the solid white is on the far left side of the road with the dashed line in the middle between the two lanes.

Where has the other lane gone?

I think the shot just happens to have all of a long hazard centre line across it. BBC pic: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-mid-wales-13174...


Also interestingly, the portion of the road parallel to the layby has been removed from Google Street View.