Surtees Ferrari 158 tameo wct kit

[henryk001]

Arrived this week.Decided on this car as the 3rd car to build and go on the transporter along with the 500 and sharknose previously built.
1st things 1st i put all the tiny parts in the jewellers screw case for fear of loosing them
All of the chassis is PE, varying in thickness, white metal casstings, nickel silver, steel, brass, steel mesh, tuned aluminium,rivets, rubber and 2 sets as usual of decals.
The parts are even smaller than the last build i did, so i suppose it was one of the smallest grandprix cars made. Should see me through Xmas.
Here goes if anyones interested.
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Thanks Guys!!! and anyone else interested in this subject.
Im really impressed with the way this monocoque chassis has been designed using all PE, impressed with its accuracy albeit the rear engine frame should be painted black.
The other thing which is new to me is the 3 options to either spray paint the side panels,use a prepainted deckel or spray and laquer a blank decal and trim
to suit,so im going to try the pre painted decal 1st and hope the Tamiya TS8 matches for the top body and engine cover.If the decal doesnt work i can always remove it.
There is some filing and manipulting to do on the side panels to make it all fit. Lots of photos here to show the Photo etch chassis.Actually taking photos do show up any mistakes made better than just looking.
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Thanks for looking

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Eric Mc said:

It looks a beautiful piece of engineering. It's almost a shame to build it

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I agree but at least the photos still show it in its naked form and i still have to build it. Looks like im going to stay in the 1/43 scale for some time

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dr_gn said:

Looks like another very nice Tameo kit - looks almost a smaller scale than 1:43.

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Ive read up a lot about this car for details and data.The chassis is quite short in comparrison to the bodywork, so its going to be approx 1/3rd longer than the photos shown.Looking at pictures of the late John Surtees in the car, he was pretty much shoehorned into it which would explain how slim he and the car was.I remember my jedi hillclimb car was similar in size and quite uncomfortable (good times though). Ive purchased the 50,s BRM V16 model kit from STMS which was a monster of a car as ive read to be resurrected by BRM. As a model it is huge by comparrison to this Ferrari .

Ferrari 158. Ferrari. Active: 1964 - 1965. Team: Scuderia Ferrari SpA. Ferrari in blue!!! ... Dimensions. Length: 3,950 mm. Width: 1,697 mm. Height: ...
Height: 768 mm
Width: 1,697 mm
Length: 3,950 mm

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Stratovarious said:

Eeuurrgghh!! All that photo etch.

Rather you than me!

Just a challenge for me,ive never made a predominantly PE kit, but impressed with the detail for a very small car and its as far as im concerned a dexterity challenge for my ever aging hands. Really enjoying it. Cheers

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CanAm said:

Henryk, it amazes me that you can build things smaller than I can even see.

How about this Hiro 1/43rd Porsche 908/03 as a challenge? The good news (compared with their larger scale versions) is that the tubular chassis part comes as a single 3D printed item. Or maybe it's not good news. I think Caterhamnut found it a challenge to get the mechanical parts into his 1/12th 917, and that had all the tubes separate.

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Looking at the photo it would a challenge id be up for. Personally i would think the resin frame wouldnt take the weight of the white metal parts unless being supported by spacers glued to the floor?. Thinking that making the frame out of brass tubing and some soldering would sort that out. Nice kit

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Had another go over a few evenings, went back to level 10 to do the front shocks. Im leaving the red body decals until the end so not to damage them whilst building. The decal will have to be cut to go around the lower wishbones and if that fails i can always paint the panels.
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Level 11-12 complete but painted the dash semi gloss black as per photos seen of the car.
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Level 13 -14 complete, leaving off the rectangular inner panels until the front suspension is finished just in case the lower wishbones come loose.
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Pedal box frame was quite difficult but got there in the end, Guages on level 15 to finish off, hopefully with some wiring.Then onto 16/17&18
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Levels 16-20.Found that there is no fuel guage for the far left of the dash so made one up and added a decal, also there should be a filler neck on the pipe which joins the 2 tanks in front of the dash i will have to make up.Coming along slowly due to commitments.
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Finish off 20-24. The radiator will be a challenge of trial and error as theres no bending jig for the pipes.

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davettf2 said:

Absolutely stunning, enjoying following this build.

Thankyou Dave. Its a nice quality but teasing kit as you do have to think about either jumping back and forward a stage or two and adding missing detail.
Its the smallest kit ive ever done, still enjoying building it.

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Finished off the front trackrods,I added a filler neck which joins the pipe and sits in front of the dash on the real car.
Onto level 21-22, radiator. This will take a bit of time to get right as the hoses 0.7mm dia soft wire needs to be bent and manipulated by trial and error until it looks right.My previous Tameo build had bending jigs which made it easy to do.Used black pigment prior to adding the grill to the rad.
Rubber effect paint will be used to simulate the hose connections

Used double sided tape on a vernier to help make up the trackrods.
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Guiddy said:

How the heck you build stuff this small amazes me!
I built 1/43rd when I was a young lad! It's 1/12 for me nowadays, 1/18 or maybe 1/20 at a push!

The kit itself is easy to follow, its the time spent on each section and care not to loose anything that might ping off somewhere. I dont rush anything as with a model this small, its easy to make a mistake or break something. Im also more prone to 1/12th scale.
Some links of 1/12th cars built over the last couple of years.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

I started doing these small kits as a challenge early this year. Keeps the grey matter going and dexterity with my age old hands. Not doing anything for my eyesight though.

Thankyou for looking

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Problems,Problems having to solve a issue with this kit.The radiator should be semi gloss black easily sorted. Big or should i say tiny issue,the track rods are way too long and after trying to assemble the upper wishbones makes the front suspension assembly look really odd,way too much camber and toeing out massivly.Will have to try and disconnect the track rods, fit the upper wishbones 1st then shorten the trackrods to suit . Some pics.levels 21-26
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This is where it could all go p-tong to try and break the trackrods apart.

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After a load of carefull effort to prize the rivets out of the track rod arms and pulling out the rose joints without managing to break anything allowed me to shorten both rods approx 1mm to get the front tracking looking ok. Scraped off the old glue and reassembled. Test fitted the front wheel centres to see if it all looked ok. Added two flexi brake pipes.Not in the instructions,some extra wiring to add, dash and temp sensor wire. Some copper (brake pipes) wire to run along the inner chassis to do.Handling this little model has rubbed the paint off in a few places, the radiator needs repainting,will touch in easily enough.
Some pics.
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Finished to level 26 looks OK.
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Thanks to anyone interested and watching this thread. Cheers.

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dudleybloke said:

Looks great so far. Glad you managed to sort out the alignment issue out without too much trouble. Will be stunning once finished.

Thanks dudleybloke, the main issue is handling it at the moment with paint easily rubbing off but should touch in ok later.

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Missing out level 27 until the end as its going to get damaged.
28 to 31
Oil catch tank next adding two pipes (clear coated silk thread) and breather/overflow tube from 0.24mm transparant thread painted clear orange.
Crankcase, rear lower wishbones and gearbox. The gunmetal useds on the gearbox will polish up lighter later using a Q-tip along with other parts needing a touch up.
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Lower wishbone added
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Some dash wires,temp sensor and copper brake lines yet to do,will use up some time.
31-36 next.
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Parts for level 32-33, shocks and rear suspension and disks prepared,cutting,bending,drilling. A error on the shock assembly found 128-129 is a seperate pin. No length shown so its a trial and error job here.Also realised that the upper trailing arm will be very difficult to connect on level 44 if the rose joint and rivet isnt added to the uprights. A fair amount of test fitting to check the rear suspension sits right before gluing.
Some pics.
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The level 44 issue sorted and onto assembling the rear suspension parts.Fitted the rear brake calipers. Sat the model on a flat plate to set it all up then glued the components in place once squared up. Drilled some holes to glue copper wire as brake pipes for the rear calipers to do later on.The frame needs repainting and some other bits and pieces and as mentioned before the paint is coming off from a lot of handling and manipulating manly from holding the car with my thumb and forefinger.
Some photos.
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Now onto assembling the rear shock absorbers.Trial and error as theres no dimentions or jig for these parts.
Time to take a break

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Shocks built making them approx 7mm long without the piston shaft being glued so i could either compress or stretch the shock to allow fitting.
32,33,35 + the wheel hubs at level 40 complete.I can see that some jumping to other levels will be required ensuring all holes are pre-drilled to complete this kit.
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dudleybloke said:

Amazing detail at such a small scale.

Thankyou for your encouraging comments. Enjoying this build which is a great distraction from everything else going on.

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After all the attempted festivity in house and on zoom, managed to get back to doing some more over the last few days.
Added some copper bridging to the brake calipers wrapped around 0.3 drill then cut in half.Alternator and Photo etch pulleys fitted. Chromed the manifolds as it was on the origonal. Predrilled holes in cylinder heads ready for leads, pipes etc.Fitted the heads. Its starting to look like a car so offered it up to the other two cars previously made.
Some pics.
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[url]|https://thumbsnap.com/tNPtcN4y[/url.
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Finish off 36 & 37 pipes then onwards to get to 43 before i put the red side body decals on.
Cheers for now