Clio 182 Trophy or 200 Cup

[Gibbo205]

Hi there

Looking at buying something truly fun and the shortlist is pretty long with cars such as:
Saxo 1.6 VTS
106 GTi
106 S2 Rallye
182 Trophy
200 Cup


Problem with the older stuff is either rotten is crazily priced whereas 182 Trophy seem to hovering around 5-9k but for the same money you can get a 200 cup or full fat cup.

Anyone here owned both the 182 Trophy and newer 200 model with cup stuff?

I see a 182 Trophy is nice and easy purchase, they are all identical and only 500 units ever made.

Whereas the 200 seems a bit more confusing, there seems to be cup models (none colour coded bumper strips) but they don't have Recaro seats whereas some of the none cup models seem to be listed as full fat cup with the Recaro's, so its a bit confusing, anyone know the difference?

Those who have owned a 182 cup / trophy and also owned the 200 cup or 200 with cup options how would you say the 182 and 200 compare for a fun weekend car for blasting down narrow b-roads.

I do notice the 182 seems a much smaller car than the 200, but maybe its just the body shape and design making 200 look bigger or it really is a much larger car, probably heavier too.

The main priorities are lightweight, super fun with incredible feedback and with little to no depreciation hence the focus been on more original hot hatches from around 2000 period.

[Gibbo205]

Or maybe something like this:

200 Gordini
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...


Assume that has the cup options, apart from Recaro's?

Likely to depreciate further or a future classic?

[Gibbo205]

Or maybe a 172 cup would be best buy?

Am I right in thinking:

172 Cup: 1025kg
172: 1090kg
182 Trophy: 1075kg
182 Cup: 1090kg
182: 1110kg
200 cup: 1210kg

Do I have my weights correct does anyone know?

Anyone driven most of them, a particular favourite?

[Gibbo205]

Salamura said:

I'd personally go for a Trophy if I were in your position. They're generally more special than the 200 cups in terms of exclusivity, and I reckon will be a better investment. They're also a different animal: lighter, more raw, smaller, and altogether a bit more oldskool. The upkeep should be similar for both cars until you remember the Sachs dampers on the Trophy, which are not cheap to refurbish. But I reckon you'll see your money back if you invest in a Trophy.

Yes also my thinking, I do prefer the idea of something more old school, lighter and smaller as modern cars have just become bloated and over weight. It was also the reason why I had 106 GTi and Saxo VTS on the list as well.

In my youth I had four 205's I loved them that much, an XS Carb, XS FI, 1.6 GTI and 1.9 GTI, they were good fun and you had to work them hard, I must of got lucky as they were also reliable with only the 1.9 GTI having issues with rust/corrosion, though the first XS Carb I wrote off pretty much as we all do with our first cars.

[Gibbo205]

LordHaveMurci said:

I've had a 172 Cup for over 8yrs, from what you've said I'd strongly suggest the Trophy or even a 182 Cup with a few sensible mods & pocket a fair few quid difference.

They are truly great fars, there's a reason Harry Metcalf has a Trophy alongside many far more exotic motors & he's not the only one.

Would you not recommend the 172 Cup then? I see out of the bunch its the lightest of them all at 1021kg.

[Gibbo205]

Got myself a 1 owner, 50k miles 172 cup in the end, I am now fully restoring it.