Clio 172/182/Trophy Prices
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I've been doing some research with a view to hopefully buying a 172 or 182 later this year.
The Trophy is clearly the holy grail, but for the extra money they demand, I cant really justify one right now. But the few I've found for sale seem to vary hugely in price.
This led me to 172/182's. And the same seems true. There are some clearly very good examples around, but some are demanding nearly Trophy money.
At the other end there are some very tidy looking examples with up to date service history etc for under 2k, some well under 2k.
Why is this?? Are some owners just chancing their arm?? Should I be wary of the very cheap ones??
They just seem so hard to value when there are such price discrepancies.
The Trophy is clearly the holy grail, but for the extra money they demand, I cant really justify one right now. But the few I've found for sale seem to vary hugely in price.
This led me to 172/182's. And the same seems true. There are some clearly very good examples around, but some are demanding nearly Trophy money.
At the other end there are some very tidy looking examples with up to date service history etc for under 2k, some well under 2k.
Why is this?? Are some owners just chancing their arm?? Should I be wary of the very cheap ones??
They just seem so hard to value when there are such price discrepancies.
egor110 said:
I'd always go for a cheap one providing it drives nicely and has proper proof of the cambelt/dephaser change.
They do seem to be going up in price though , i got my 172 cup for 1200 , my ropey 182 for 600 , not a chance of that now .
That’s interesting, usually advice would be buy the best you can afford. They do seem to be going up in price though , i got my 172 cup for 1200 , my ropey 182 for 600 , not a chance of that now .
There are a few sub 2k examples and I guess that’s was my point, what’s the difference between a sub 2k car and an example around the 3-4K price. On the face of the adverts and pictures, there doesn’t seem to be a huge difference.
Their reputation as the best affordable hot hatch has certainly kept prices keen.
DoubleTime said:
I'd probably prioritise it something like....
1) Rust - Can be costly to fix but not much areas to go wrong
2) Camp belt/Dephaser/Water pump with PROOF
3) Gearbox/Clutch - check for crunches from 2nd to 3rd when booting it
4) Decent enough service history
The rest is easily put right for not a lot of money.
Try and buy from an enthusiast although this will likely command a premium. I wouldn't buy the cheapest, middle of the price range would be my punt.
Unless you get very lucky of course...
Thanks mate. Sound advice. I was watching one on fleabay last night, it went for £1170. Seemed to good to be true. Yet, as you say enthusiasts seem to be demanding upwards of 3k.1) Rust - Can be costly to fix but not much areas to go wrong
2) Camp belt/Dephaser/Water pump with PROOF
3) Gearbox/Clutch - check for crunches from 2nd to 3rd when booting it
4) Decent enough service history
The rest is easily put right for not a lot of money.
Try and buy from an enthusiast although this will likely command a premium. I wouldn't buy the cheapest, middle of the price range would be my punt.
Unless you get very lucky of course...
Strange market.
Thanks AndrewGP. More sound advice.
This appeared on fleabay earlier.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...
Seems too good to be true, certainly keenly priced.
This appeared on fleabay earlier.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...
Seems too good to be true, certainly keenly priced.
"Coincidentally I'm looking to sell my Inferno 182 cup, 127,000 miles in really tidy condition with the Cambelt, Dephaser, water pump etc changed last year for £2600"
Hi ya,
A useful source of info indeed.
Just a quick question, if a 182 is advertised as a Cup but has the darker half leather trim, is it likely not a Cup??
And is there a link to yours for sale?? Or a clue as to where I can find it, assuming links may not be allowed??
Hi ya,
A useful source of info indeed.
Just a quick question, if a 182 is advertised as a Cup but has the darker half leather trim, is it likely not a Cup??
And is there a link to yours for sale?? Or a clue as to where I can find it, assuming links may not be allowed??
So after a few weeks of searching about this PH1 172 popped up on an auction.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...
Having spoken with the owner it’s due it’s belts this year and will need to be taken into account but otherwise seems very tidy.
I’ve a figure in mind I’ll go too and see how it pans out.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...
Having spoken with the owner it’s due it’s belts this year and will need to be taken into account but otherwise seems very tidy.
I’ve a figure in mind I’ll go too and see how it pans out.
By way of small update, I bid up to a level I was happy paying and was outbid, although it sold for my max bid.
Within minutes the seller messaged to say the 'winner' had bid by accident and couldn't retract his bid and the car was mine. Unfortunately I was at work and didn't reply until later in the evening by which time the seller had taken a deposit from someone, presumably the next bidder below me.
Oh well, clearly wasn't meant to be.
I'm now a little torn between stretching the budget having seen a decent Cup and nice looking FF come onto the market. Or wait out for something local and cheaper to pop up.
Within minutes the seller messaged to say the 'winner' had bid by accident and couldn't retract his bid and the car was mine. Unfortunately I was at work and didn't reply until later in the evening by which time the seller had taken a deposit from someone, presumably the next bidder below me.
Oh well, clearly wasn't meant to be.
I'm now a little torn between stretching the budget having seen a decent Cup and nice looking FF come onto the market. Or wait out for something local and cheaper to pop up.
I've just seen that. Glad it went to a good home, and we get to see another decent thread unravel.
If the wife ends up changing her car to a family size car it'll be a weekend toy for me / daily. Not that I commute by car. Hence it wont see much use.
It wont go near a track, or is very unlikely too in the next few years anyway.
There's an inferno red FF182 local to me on Autotrader which looks worthy of a viewing.
If the wife ends up changing her car to a family size car it'll be a weekend toy for me / daily. Not that I commute by car. Hence it wont see much use.
It wont go near a track, or is very unlikely too in the next few years anyway.
There's an inferno red FF182 local to me on Autotrader which looks worthy of a viewing.
So I’ve been to look over an inferno orange 182.
Listed at £2550 but the list of bits it needs is pretty long.
And this is just what I can see.
Aux belt overdue, belts due next summer, leak from driveshaft area, brake warning lights, engine light on.
Dented bonnet, wheels need a refurb, plus a list of smaller niggly bits.
It’s been sitting a while and only did 300 miles last year.
Sorely tempted but I think the seller thinks it’s worth more than it is.
Listed at £2550 but the list of bits it needs is pretty long.
And this is just what I can see.
Aux belt overdue, belts due next summer, leak from driveshaft area, brake warning lights, engine light on.
Dented bonnet, wheels need a refurb, plus a list of smaller niggly bits.
It’s been sitting a while and only did 300 miles last year.
Sorely tempted but I think the seller thinks it’s worth more than it is.
An honest appraisal. Thank you.
The issue on this one comes from the advert saying they’ve been done and then a thumb through the paperwork reveals they were done in 2016. So a cost is not factored in now needs thinking about.
The aux belt is a ticking time bomb as you rightly say, and with the recommended 3 year interval, well overdue.
Mods are limited to SS exhaust, springs and a panel air filter so no issues there.
And for me, the right car would be a keeper.
The issue on this one comes from the advert saying they’ve been done and then a thumb through the paperwork reveals they were done in 2016. So a cost is not factored in now needs thinking about.
The aux belt is a ticking time bomb as you rightly say, and with the recommended 3 year interval, well overdue.
Mods are limited to SS exhaust, springs and a panel air filter so no issues there.
And for me, the right car would be a keeper.
I’m in Bedfordshire, so no where near. I think I’m going to low ball him at £1500. I’ve done some rough maths and there’s nearly that again that needs spending on it.
Armstrong Autos are in Luton and advertise as Renault specialists. I think that’s where I’d look at.
A mate owns a garage but mainly does VAG as he was VW qualified. And mates rates means I’m usually at the back of the queue anyway.
Armstrong Autos are in Luton and advertise as Renault specialists. I think that’s where I’d look at.
A mate owns a garage but mainly does VAG as he was VW qualified. And mates rates means I’m usually at the back of the queue anyway.
Just a little rant from a frustrated potential buyer!! None of these cars are local so I'm looking a decent miles to view and buy the right car, something I have no issue doing.
I've messaged a few owners over the weekend with a view to trying to get a few answers to reasonable questions. Messages were exchanged and then suddenly they cease to reply.
One chap stopped replying when I asked if we could speak. He is over 100 miles away and before I set off on a road trip I wanted to speak with the seller. I've since found the car on FB and started another conversation. Seller replied it was still available so I messaged back, now nothing.
The other chap replied it was still available, then nothing when I asked a few basic questions not covered in the ad.
Its so frustrating. I'm trying to avoid forecourts and the dealer premium, but starting to think it may be easier.
I've messaged a few owners over the weekend with a view to trying to get a few answers to reasonable questions. Messages were exchanged and then suddenly they cease to reply.
One chap stopped replying when I asked if we could speak. He is over 100 miles away and before I set off on a road trip I wanted to speak with the seller. I've since found the car on FB and started another conversation. Seller replied it was still available so I messaged back, now nothing.
The other chap replied it was still available, then nothing when I asked a few basic questions not covered in the ad.
Its so frustrating. I'm trying to avoid forecourts and the dealer premium, but starting to think it may be easier.
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