Turbo R Track Car
Discussion
At the risk of being flamed I am thinking of converting a Turbo R for track use. I know that one was built by one of the Rolls/Bentley specialists a while ago.
Soooo, my main question is, which is the best model? I would guess the post '91 with 4 speed autobox would be a good start. Were there any brake or suspension improvements over the years?
This is going to be a major project, including shortening the wheelbase and a massive diet. What would be great would be to find a car with a fubared interior!
Soooo, my main question is, which is the best model? I would guess the post '91 with 4 speed autobox would be a good start. Were there any brake or suspension improvements over the years?
This is going to be a major project, including shortening the wheelbase and a massive diet. What would be great would be to find a car with a fubared interior!
Just checked and found a race kit, controller and steering wheel paddle shift for the 4L80E!!! OOh a paddle shift Bentley!
With the body, I reckon to shorten it the length of the bottom of the rear door, so that the forward edge of the wheel arch touches the B post. Might even re do the roof to make it a coupe in the style of the original Continental.
Hell, this is getting exciting even before I start or even buy the car...
With the body, I reckon to shorten it the length of the bottom of the rear door, so that the forward edge of the wheel arch touches the B post. Might even re do the roof to make it a coupe in the style of the original Continental.
Hell, this is getting exciting even before I start or even buy the car...
graemel said:
I'm sure you already know all of this. But weight is your enemy. The Turbo R, a magnificent beast was designed to cross continents in a single bound (yes I know Jay Leno said that). It was never designed to be a track day weapon. I cannot imagine with even chopping out a fair chunk of chassis and an extreme diet you would get it anywere near 1500kg. I'm sure without too much trouble you could make well over 700bhp. But stopping it, harnessing the power and gaining traction will be a major issue. I believe even with Alcon brakes the phantom motor company ran water injection on the brakes. Whilst I admire your resolve I would say it is a foolhardy excercise. Leave it as Bentley intended and enjoy them for what they were made for.
EEK!Well, Phantom got theirs down to c 1700kg which aint bad. Use 18 or 19" wheels and you can get some 345mm or larger brakes with 6 or 8 pot callipers and use a conventional system. Remove inner headlamps and duct air to the brakes. Engine power isn't a problem with a large chargecooler and water injection - use a stand alone ecu and possibly bigger injectors, as the stock ones will max out quickly.
Traction with a slippy diff or a visit to Quaife (just up the road from me) should help.
Anyway, this will be a fast road and track day car initially so it will be an interesting learning curve!
With the shortened wheel base (about 18") I am thinking that I may make a buck to create a Kevlar or carbon fibre roof....
We'll see.
Bonkers? You bet. Can I do it? Yes. Just made some upper suspension arms for the MG Widget this afternoon....
Maybe I could get some sponsorship from tool suppliers, medication manufacturers etc.
Last point. Didn't people shorten the wheelbase and tune/lighten WO Bentleys in the 20's and 30's??? So orft we go again!
I'll have to post some pics of some of my more nutty creations some time. When I was 21 I had a Mk3 Zodiac estate with a Rover V8! Built a one off Cooper S when I was 18... Been there done that.
At last! Pick up the Turbo R next Sunday.
It's a '96 in blue with only 73K on the clock, FSH, new brakes, 17" wheels and tyres.
Aren't these cars soooo cheap to buy?
Anyway, if anyone wants a complete tan interior, active ride set up complete, bumpers, grille, etc. let me know!
The work will start after Easter. Less weight and more power. Shift kit with paddle change for the trans.
This is going to be the latest incarnation of the Blue Train Bentley!
More as it happens.....
Now off to hospital for a day or so....
It's a '96 in blue with only 73K on the clock, FSH, new brakes, 17" wheels and tyres.
Aren't these cars soooo cheap to buy?
Anyway, if anyone wants a complete tan interior, active ride set up complete, bumpers, grille, etc. let me know!
The work will start after Easter. Less weight and more power. Shift kit with paddle change for the trans.
This is going to be the latest incarnation of the Blue Train Bentley!
More as it happens.....
Now off to hospital for a day or so....
Picking the car up tomorrow. Bought some Bride seats in a nice shade of blue. Planning.... best part of these jobs,eh?
I will get it in the workshop Monday and have a good look around and measure up for the new suspension, exhaust, etc.
List of parts so far to go to save weight/complication etc.
Whole interior (in tan which is unusual)
Active ride system complete with springs, spheres etc.
Exhaust system
Rear door window motors.
Grille inner
'Orrible engine cover thing.
Electric steering column and airbag steering wheel
Lambswool overmats and footrests in blue. (Or should I keep those for cold circuit days?)
All ECU's except for gearbox and engine for now.
Later will be the whole brake system - callipers, discs, lines, actuator.
Dashboard.
Gearbox ECU
Engine ECU
Anyone interested in these bits let me know with your offers!
Will put up some pics next week......
I will get it in the workshop Monday and have a good look around and measure up for the new suspension, exhaust, etc.
List of parts so far to go to save weight/complication etc.
Whole interior (in tan which is unusual)
Active ride system complete with springs, spheres etc.
Exhaust system
Rear door window motors.
Grille inner
'Orrible engine cover thing.
Electric steering column and airbag steering wheel
Lambswool overmats and footrests in blue. (Or should I keep those for cold circuit days?)
All ECU's except for gearbox and engine for now.
Later will be the whole brake system - callipers, discs, lines, actuator.
Dashboard.
Gearbox ECU
Engine ECU
Anyone interested in these bits let me know with your offers!
Will put up some pics next week......
Sooo.
It's started, the build, that is.
Rear exhaust system removed and also the secondary cats. Tailpipes now exit in front of the o/s/r wheel. Sounds proper! Saved the first 40kg or so.
Had some fun with the Driver Information Panel. Damn thing showed a MIL even though there were no codes. So sent the DIP off to be repaired. Piece of the proverbial to remove - just love the fact there aren't any self-tappers, just threaded inserts. Anyway, re fitted it and got an sirbag light! Apparently that was caused by starting the car without the DIP fitted. So off to West Hoathly Garage to get it turned off. Just want to mention what a great bunch of people there. Proper old fashioned workshop.
Tomorrow a lot of the interior is coming out and a trial fit of the new seats. If there is time I will lower the suspension too. Oh it needs a mesh grille too.
Hopefully, I have found a viscous diff too.
Better post a few pics,eh?
I will be taking it to the PH meet at Redhill on Tues and also to the supercar thing at Leeds Castle next Sunday.
It's started, the build, that is.
Rear exhaust system removed and also the secondary cats. Tailpipes now exit in front of the o/s/r wheel. Sounds proper! Saved the first 40kg or so.
Had some fun with the Driver Information Panel. Damn thing showed a MIL even though there were no codes. So sent the DIP off to be repaired. Piece of the proverbial to remove - just love the fact there aren't any self-tappers, just threaded inserts. Anyway, re fitted it and got an sirbag light! Apparently that was caused by starting the car without the DIP fitted. So off to West Hoathly Garage to get it turned off. Just want to mention what a great bunch of people there. Proper old fashioned workshop.
Tomorrow a lot of the interior is coming out and a trial fit of the new seats. If there is time I will lower the suspension too. Oh it needs a mesh grille too.
Hopefully, I have found a viscous diff too.
Better post a few pics,eh?
I will be taking it to the PH meet at Redhill on Tues and also to the supercar thing at Leeds Castle next Sunday.
Ah, Silverstone.
Being a significant birthday this year I am taking my ARDS in June actually on my birthday!
So, it is possible that Silverstone will be my first race. I am doing the club 18-30 Motorpunk Track Day the friday before.
Gonna be a long and busy summer. I hope.
I hope to have a lot of the basic work done in the next week or so.
Being a significant birthday this year I am taking my ARDS in June actually on my birthday!
So, it is possible that Silverstone will be my first race. I am doing the club 18-30 Motorpunk Track Day the friday before.
Gonna be a long and busy summer. I hope.
I hope to have a lot of the basic work done in the next week or so.
Quite a lot done. Most of the interior out, race seats and harnesses fitted, exhaust modified, suspension lowered and stiffened.
Must have lost about 2/300kg so far. Still loads to do.......
Unfortunately I can't do my ARDS this week because of my health - so I am hoping to do it in July.
I will be going to Silverstone, even if its only for the parade lap!
Also going to the BDC Concours at the end of June just for a laugh!
Pictures here soon.
Must have lost about 2/300kg so far. Still loads to do.......
Unfortunately I can't do my ARDS this week because of my health - so I am hoping to do it in July.
I will be going to Silverstone, even if its only for the parade lap!
Also going to the BDC Concours at the end of June just for a laugh!
Pictures here soon.
Scotty2 said:
V8FOU,
Could I buy the small chrome strut that holds up the centre armrest cover (or stops it going too far open). What I would call a "stay" as my son donald ducked mine?
A replacement was a tad overpriced ;-)
No problem.Could I buy the small chrome strut that holds up the centre armrest cover (or stops it going too far open). What I would call a "stay" as my son donald ducked mine?
A replacement was a tad overpriced ;-)
How much was the original?
PM me so we can do this for you.
Paul
Fred Revival.
I keep being asked "what about the Bentley?"
Well, after a gearbox rebuild, it has been sitting around looking a bit sorry for itself.
So I thought New Year is the time to go on a diet.
Started with cutting out the roof panel.
And prepped for glue
More will follow as the carbon fibre roof is fitted. 20kg saved there!
15kg saved from removing the (solid brass) door handles!
8kg of wire removed from here so far
Plus another 10kg of door lock operators, surplus ecu's, etc.
The key barels are also solid brass and weigh about 300g a go!
There is a load more wiring to come out and one or two more ecu's.
Further dieting will involve new brakes in alloy and the disc bells too.
I am hoping for 200kg this time to get the all up weight to around 17/1800kg. Not bad, considering it started at 2600 or so.....
I am making some plastic door buttons and also some alloy window frames to replace, you guessed, the solid brass ones. New Racetech dash coming soon too.
I keep being asked "what about the Bentley?"
Well, after a gearbox rebuild, it has been sitting around looking a bit sorry for itself.
So I thought New Year is the time to go on a diet.
Started with cutting out the roof panel.
And prepped for glue
More will follow as the carbon fibre roof is fitted. 20kg saved there!
15kg saved from removing the (solid brass) door handles!
8kg of wire removed from here so far
Plus another 10kg of door lock operators, surplus ecu's, etc.
The key barels are also solid brass and weigh about 300g a go!
There is a load more wiring to come out and one or two more ecu's.
Further dieting will involve new brakes in alloy and the disc bells too.
I am hoping for 200kg this time to get the all up weight to around 17/1800kg. Not bad, considering it started at 2600 or so.....
I am making some plastic door buttons and also some alloy window frames to replace, you guessed, the solid brass ones. New Racetech dash coming soon too.
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