Small countries that punch above their weight

Small countries that punch above their weight

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gshughes

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After their recent win in the America's Cup and the continuing excellence of the All Blacks, the argument can be made that in international sport New Zealand punch above the weight of their small population. On another thread someone wondered what other countries were similar or better. I'm Scottish, so put together a list off the top of my head of Scottish world class performers and it is a long one (and probably loads I have missed), possibly better than New Zealand. Does anyone have any similar lists for other small countries? The Netherlands is one that springs to mind. Australia have lots of sporting stars but a relatively large population at 23 million:

Ecurie Ecosse (1956 and 1957 Le Mans Winners)
Jackie Stewart (three times F1 Drivers Champion)
Jim Clark (twice F1 Drivers Champion)
The Lisbon Lions (Celtic European Cup Winners 1967)
David Wilkie
Alan Wells
Liz McColgan
Kenny Dalgleish
Graham Souness
Sandy Lyle
John Cleland
Colin McRae
Louise Aitken-Walker
Dario Franchitti
David Coulthard
Steve Hislop
Paul di Resta
Graeme Obree
Robert Millar
David Millar
Chris Hoy
Mark Beaumont
Callum Skinner
Kathryn Grainger
Stephen Hendry (is snooker a sport?)
Jocky Wilson (ditto darts!)
The Rugby Union Team (currently 5th in the IRB World Rankings, would include such as Gavin Hastings, John Jeffery and a few others who would have got into world teams of their era, arguably Stewart Hogg in a few years if he can improve his defence)
Andy Murray
Jamie Murray


Edited by gshughes on Friday 22 September 06:38

gshughes

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Type R Tom said:
Not got the current Rangers team in that list wink

I think the fact I had to google some of them means they aren't "that" big.
Touche! I haven't ever really thought of Rangers as being a big club in the scheme of things, I think their biggest achievement is beating Marseille to get to the semi final of the Champions League in about 1993, but I could be wring about that. Who did you have to google out of interest?

gshughes

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Pothole said:
No Alan Hansen or Bill Shankly? What's wrong with you, man? Gavin Hastings' tears surly preclude him from such a list!

Honourable mention to Gary McAllister if we're talking about Kopite Scotsmen, too.
Bill Shankly is a manager rather than a sportsman, but I take your point. I guess that means that I need to (reluctantly) include Fergie as well! Alan Hansen was a bit below my radar for some reason, and if we are including GMcA, I think we should include John Collins too, as he scored against Brazil in a World Cup and had a successful stint at Monaco. Paul Lambert played for Bayern Munich for a while too, I seem to recall - the list could go on!

gshughes

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Gargamel said:
Not enough footballers in that list. Archie Gemmill (won the European Cup twice with Nottingham Forest) along with a couple of others Scots. Also, Gordon Strachan probably the most complete football from Scotland.

I would say Australia for its population wins a lot of stuff. Across a wide range, Rugby, Swimming, Cricket, Triathlon and very food ladies sport too.
Very good point, Archie Gemmill deserves to go in, purely for THAT goal against Holland. I was pondering Gordon Strachan, but in the end I left him out. As regards Australia, I raised this in the initial post. Yes they are very good at sport, but they have a population of 23 million, so not really a small country.

gshughes

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I'll add some of those folk in when I'm on a PC. I edited my list to add John Cleland as I watched an old round of the World Touring Car championship the other day, and he was leading at one point till he was punted off.

Wasn't Alan Baxter the first Brit to win a Winter Olympics medal until he was unluckily stripped of it for using the wrong kind of Vicks nasal medication? The stuff he usually used at home would have been fine.

Edited by gshughes on Friday 24th November 15:40