How England Won the Ashes in Australia - 2010/11
Discussion
Right, the Summer is over, England won everything, six out of six tournaments or series, all formats.
The Squad is annouced, and as crack a crack unit of cricketers as ever left our sceptred isle they are too.
Aussies are bound to get lucky once, and one will be a draw, so England will win 3-1
Jimmy Andersen leading wicket taker
Andrew Strauss over 500 for the series
What say our Antipodeans?
Difficult to call the England attack,
Finn Might end up being the leading wicket taker, if he can get the lengths right, and not try to bowl flat out all the time.
Anderson was carted last time, but I think he has really developed since then and is a more patient bowler now.
Broad, easy to wind up, loses patience, can't see him doing the hard yards under the hot sun, bowls to short, and the Aussies will love to pull him.
Swann, well he might have a field day, especially against the lefties, but will he get the drift with the other ball. Not sure.
If Broad gets the right advice, I think he will be a handful, but I am not sure he can bowl to a plan the same way Anderson can, gets worked up and then loses a bit of control.
Finn Might end up being the leading wicket taker, if he can get the lengths right, and not try to bowl flat out all the time.
Anderson was carted last time, but I think he has really developed since then and is a more patient bowler now.
Broad, easy to wind up, loses patience, can't see him doing the hard yards under the hot sun, bowls to short, and the Aussies will love to pull him.
Swann, well he might have a field day, especially against the lefties, but will he get the drift with the other ball. Not sure.
If Broad gets the right advice, I think he will be a handful, but I am not sure he can bowl to a plan the same way Anderson can, gets worked up and then loses a bit of control.
Swanns big thing is bowling a lefties (great against Aus)
But he doesn't get big turn off the pitch, its the drift of the ball in the air, which is ok with the duke ball, bigger seam etc, and of course in England the wind is often a factor.
I'd hate to see him relying on footmarks etc or being used like Giles to bowl two feet outside leg stump to an 7 - 2 leg field.
However he certainly has a touch of golden arm about him
But he doesn't get big turn off the pitch, its the drift of the ball in the air, which is ok with the duke ball, bigger seam etc, and of course in England the wind is often a factor.
I'd hate to see him relying on footmarks etc or being used like Giles to bowl two feet outside leg stump to an 7 - 2 leg field.
However he certainly has a touch of golden arm about him
5pen said:
Can the thread title be changed so that it's not tempting fate? It could turn out to be the worst prediction since Johnfm changed his name to Aussies5Poms0 before the last Ashes series?
No, it is a great prediction, Clearly any Englishman is naturally superior to the convict nation. They have only one decent player and he is in his twilight years, I am looking for to watching KP hoist their so called bowlers to all parts of the ground.
I doubt Hilfenhaus will get more than two overs per innings, as our chpas help themselves to the Buffet fare on offer
DJC said:
Put simply both sides arent that much cop at the moment.
How can you say this... Australia have lost 10 of the last 13 outings in all formats, England have won home test series against Pakistan, Drawn Away wih SA, Won the T20 world cup, beaten everyone we have played in Onedayers (including SA) We are on a good run, with a decent unit.
DJC said:
Have you watched us play recently?
Seriously?!?!
The batting unit hasnt put together a decent conhesive performance all summer. We have either relied on someone making a decent score or the bowlers saving our arse. Our *best* batsman cant buy a run. Our middle order is once again undecided and one of the openners and Vice Captain was one innings away from a turfing out earlier in the summer.
Oh and our best bowler just had his rib broken.
Strauss - form of his life Seriously?!?!
The batting unit hasnt put together a decent conhesive performance all summer. We have either relied on someone making a decent score or the bowlers saving our arse. Our *best* batsman cant buy a run. Our middle order is once again undecided and one of the openners and Vice Captain was one innings away from a turfing out earlier in the summer.
Oh and our best bowler just had his rib broken.
Jimmy will be fit for the warm ups so no big deal
Swann, probably the best off spinner in the world right now.
Cook - OK so has had a dip, but made a century in the last test.
As for relying on someone to make a decent score, yes we do that - for the last four years its been KP predominatly, he will be back demolishing the bowling, have a little faith.
I think Ponting would swap 'our' problems for his problems
webbyst said:
K P has to play , he will give the aussie's as good as he gets & probably more verbally , just wish he'd spent a few months with Goochie & Ramps sorting his alleged left arm over batting problems ,
Really thought England missed a trick with K P going to south africa, All it needed was to get a dozen decent left arm club bowlers to bowl at him for a few days ,
Its a classic confidence thing, when he trusted his eye the footwork against the lefties never bothered him. Since the runfest came to an end, he has started having "coaching" on his technique. Really thought England missed a trick with K P going to south africa, All it needed was to get a dozen decent left arm club bowlers to bowl at him for a few days ,
Edited by webbyst on Monday 1st November 18:55
I hope he gets back into the groove, last time round in AUS he was our top scorer and averaged 44 per knock for the series .... pundits still reckoned he had a bad series !
KP can't win, if he hits 85 and top scores in the innings, then he should have made 150, if he hangs in there makes a 70 ball 20 playing "responsible cricket" he eventually goes to a left arm because its not his natural game.
Need Cook, Strauss and Trott to play at least 30 overs before KP gets shown a ball
Fri Nov 5 - Sun Nov 7
Western Australia v England XI
Western Australia Cricket Association Ground, Perth S
Thu Nov 11 - Sat Nov 13
South Australia v England XI
Adelaide Oval
Wed Nov 17 - Sat Nov 20
Australia A v England XI
Bellerive Oval, Hobart
Thu Nov 25 - Mon Nov 29
1st Test - Australia v England
Brisbane Cricket Ground, Woolloongabba, Brisbane
Fri Dec 3 - Tue Dec 7
2nd Test - Australia v England
Adelaide Oval
Fri Dec 10 - Sun Dec 12
Victoria v England XI
Melbourne Cricket Ground
Thu Dec 16 - Mon Dec 20
3rd Test - Australia v England
Western Australia Cricket Association Ground, Perth
Sun Dec 26 - Thu Dec 30
4th Test - Australia v England
Melbourne Cricket Ground
Mon Jan 3 - Fri Jan 7
5th Test - Australia v England
Sydney Cricket Ground
Mon Jan 10
Prime Minister's XI v England XI
Manuka Oval, Canberra
Wed Jan 12
T20I - Australia v England
Adelaide Oval
Fri Jan 14
2nd T20I - Australia v England
Melbourne Cricket Ground
Sun Jan 16
1st ODI - Australia v England
Melbourne Cricket Ground
Fri Jan 21
2nd ODI - Australia v England
Bellerive Oval, Hobart
Sun Jan 23
3rd ODI - Australia v England
Sydney Cricket Ground
N/A
Wed Jan 26
4th ODI - Australia v England
Adelaide Oval
Sun Jan 30
5th ODI - Australia v England
Brisbane Cricket Ground, Woolloongabba, Brisbane
Wed Feb 2
6th ODI - Australia v England
Sydney Cricket Ground
Sun Feb 6
7th ODI - Australia v England
Western Australia Cricket Association Ground, Perth
That is a long tour....
Western Australia v England XI
Western Australia Cricket Association Ground, Perth S
Thu Nov 11 - Sat Nov 13
South Australia v England XI
Adelaide Oval
Wed Nov 17 - Sat Nov 20
Australia A v England XI
Bellerive Oval, Hobart
Thu Nov 25 - Mon Nov 29
1st Test - Australia v England
Brisbane Cricket Ground, Woolloongabba, Brisbane
Fri Dec 3 - Tue Dec 7
2nd Test - Australia v England
Adelaide Oval
Fri Dec 10 - Sun Dec 12
Victoria v England XI
Melbourne Cricket Ground
Thu Dec 16 - Mon Dec 20
3rd Test - Australia v England
Western Australia Cricket Association Ground, Perth
Sun Dec 26 - Thu Dec 30
4th Test - Australia v England
Melbourne Cricket Ground
Mon Jan 3 - Fri Jan 7
5th Test - Australia v England
Sydney Cricket Ground
Mon Jan 10
Prime Minister's XI v England XI
Manuka Oval, Canberra
Wed Jan 12
T20I - Australia v England
Adelaide Oval
Fri Jan 14
2nd T20I - Australia v England
Melbourne Cricket Ground
Sun Jan 16
1st ODI - Australia v England
Melbourne Cricket Ground
Fri Jan 21
2nd ODI - Australia v England
Bellerive Oval, Hobart
Sun Jan 23
3rd ODI - Australia v England
Sydney Cricket Ground
N/A
Wed Jan 26
4th ODI - Australia v England
Adelaide Oval
Sun Jan 30
5th ODI - Australia v England
Brisbane Cricket Ground, Woolloongabba, Brisbane
Wed Feb 2
6th ODI - Australia v England
Sydney Cricket Ground
Sun Feb 6
7th ODI - Australia v England
Western Australia Cricket Association Ground, Perth
That is a long tour....
Good article here if you have a moment
http://blogs.cricinfo.com/andyzaltzman/archives/20...
Bell and Colly half centuries this morning, slightly under par score but thats two more batsmen who will be feely a little less pressure
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