Hardcore Hardtail (Frame Only)

[Mr Scruff]

I have too many bikes. I've no idea how, they just appeared in the garage when I wasn't looking - honest.

Anyway, decided that I want to make some adjustments. My Ellsworth Evolve C (full suspension, 29") is going, as is my Clockwork (hardtail, 27.5").

I want to replace with a hardcore hardtail, 29". Selling both the above means I should have some budget to play with.

Heck of a lot of choice out there though! Am looking at the standard options:

Yeti ARC
Santa Cruz Chameleon
Orange P7
Maybe Pace 592
Sonder?

Anything else worth looking at?

[Mr Scruff]

Some great suggestions - and photos! Thanks gents... The Yeti would be a pure indulgence, I don't need such a bike and wouldn't do it justice so am erring away from that a bit.

Do love the Sonder, and forgotten about the Moxie (definitely in pink).

Heart is saying Pace at the moment but will be some time before both other bikes get moved on so have some time to be indecisive!

[Mr Scruff]

missing the VR6 said:

I'm not sure how you define hardcore

A good question, and perhaps it’s somewhat subjective. I want something I can basically hammer hard in the drier summer months - relatively long wheelbase and holding it’s own on the more downhill trails.

missing the VR6 said:

I'd also suggest the Orange Crush is the bike in Oranges range for you.

Would very much agree, but my riding buddy has one (which is what kicked off this whole adventure as it’s so bloody fast!) and don’t want to turn up on the same bike as him. Brilliant bike, even if some of the components not 100% my taste.

BaronVonVaderham said:

But if you already have a 27.5 Orange, then why would you want to replace it with one with extra heavy clown wheels?

27.5 is more fun to ride, and imho looks far better.

Contentious! Ultimately I prefer 29”, I think they roll better and I can thrash them harder. I’m also pretty lanky which helps.

Anyway, thanks all for the suggestions. Am away riding motorbikes this week but when I’m back will put more effort into selling some old kit and researching new stuff

[Mr Scruff]

take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey said:

Where are you based scruff... And what size frame.

You can try my Taival if you're around N Yorks. Might not suit but it will give you an idea of geo figures as a basis for future purchase.

Very kind, but down in South Bucks unfortunately. I tend to ride XL.

Regardless, no one seems in the mood for buying bike stuff at the moment so might be a while to raise the funds! Not in enough of a rush to go bargain basement pricing,

[Mr Scruff]

Hugo Stiglitz said:

A Kingdom? I'm selling mine as a frame only.

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