I think I'm done with road...

I think I'm done with road...

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Tim Cognito

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348 posts

8 months

Sunday 24th March
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I got into road cycling around 12 years ago and it was great, with all the physical and mental benefits we all know.

I got into a bit of a hole chasing average speed, spanking myself every ride and judging how good a ride was by what the average was. Obviously it is an ever increasing target and I was getting a bit bored with it.

A few years ago my friend introduced me to gravel and I didn't look back, much more engaging and challenging riding, more sociable, still physically very hard, closer to nature and most importantly away from traffic.

When I did go back on the road, the attitude to cyclists and driving standards was getting to me, it seemed like every ride you'd have a close call or punishment pass.

Enjoying the plus point of not almost being killed every ride, my journey off road continued and I got a hard tail mtb and later a full suss and so the road bike barely gets used now.

Today we had some dry weather and I had 90 minutes to spare so I thought I'd do the local fast roadie loop and give it a dig for old times sake.

Literally 2 minutes out the door, some almost takes me out on a roundabout, I mean inches away, probably the closest call I've had.

There's just too many incapable, distracted or deliberately aggressive drivers to potentially ruin a ride now.

It's got to the point where I honestly wouldn't recommend anyone I care about to start road cycling, and if that's my view to protect others, why aren't I protecting myself...

So yeah, I think my roadie days are over, maybe group rides only?

Tim Cognito

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348 posts

8 months

Monday 25th March
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Beethree said:
Yeah, no idea why people would ‘abuse’ drivers with this kind of well rounded and considerate attitude…
Don't bite, surprised "road tax" wasn't mentioned.

Tim Cognito

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348 posts

8 months

Monday 25th March
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lizardbrain said:

I also. enjoy not wearing a helmet, so gravitate to riding where that is a reasonable option.
Where's that on the beach? In a children's soft play?

Tim Cognito

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348 posts

8 months

Monday 25th March
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lizardbrain said:
Beach is one option yes. Fattie ebike ideal for this

Nothing is risk free, but I would personally feel safer cycling without a helmet somewhere like a quiet gravel path (or Amsterdam city centre), vs a road with a helmet.

I believe the research into ABI in cities where < 5% of cyclists wear helmets due to well developed infrastructure, does back me up on this,

Safest of course is to wear a helmet at all times, no question.

Safer still would be to get an exercise bike and stay home. Pick your point on the scale
Fair enough, I was only going to say I stacked it on a slippery fire road last year on my gravel bike and cracked my helmet. Granted I was bombing it and being stupid but still, it's easily done.

Tim Cognito

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348 posts

8 months

Monday 25th March
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irc said:
I don't wear a helmet when cycling. I have decades of commuting and touring including three times across the USA without an injury accident.

Cycling is actually safe. There was 34 million miles done on Boris Bikes before the first fatality.

https://understandinguncertainty.org/fatality-risk...

So it is safe for the average rider. Put a bit of thought into your riding and be better than average and it is even safer.
I don't really want to go off in that direction but tourists pootling round at 5mph is quite different to what I'd assume most people get up to on bikes of a weekend.

Congratulations on your safety record.

Tim Cognito

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348 posts

8 months

Monday 25th March
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Bryanwww said:
Got a road bike after years of mountainbiking and it's mega stressful being on the road with cars - weird obsession with overtaking cyclists regardless of what's happening on the road ahead. Really feels like people are driving looking not more than 5 meters ahead.
The cycle lanes with the posts in them don't make me feel particularly safe either as they are just more obstacles to be aware of, while still managing to spit you out into the main road at the worst spots.
The term is MGIF (must get in front) and yes they are morons.

Tim Cognito

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348 posts

8 months

Monday 25th March
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trails said:
Sure is...just getting a bit bored of it now though biglaugh
I am so sick of my mtb and kit getting absolutely filthy after every ride now...oh for dusty fast trails not riding through porridge.

Tim Cognito

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348 posts

8 months

Tuesday 26th March
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I don't know why anyone bothers engaging with him on this topic, it's like arguing about Brexit or religion.

Tim Cognito

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348 posts

8 months

Thursday 4th April
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Castrol for a knave said:
Oddly enough, I get less hassle and fewer close passes when wearing an Army cycling top, than I do wearing my club one.

Not that it means I am hard. I think drivers suddenly link the rider to being an actual real, living breathing person.
Could be an overlap between the mouth breathers driving aggressively/incompetently and those with a fetishisation for the armed forces? I expect if you had a full union jack kit they would probably salute you on the way past and invite you back for tea and cake.

Tim Cognito

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348 posts

8 months

Friday 5th April
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Julian Scott said:
So it's a hard right issue?
Hard throbber issue. It was tongue in cheek and getting political never ends well but I would be interested to see political leaning Vs attitudes to cyclists (which correlates with how you behave towards them).

Tim Cognito

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348 posts

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Friday 5th April
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trails said:
In a sphincter puckering way hehe
Also a game of leafy/rocky is always fun.

Tim Cognito

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348 posts

8 months

Wednesday 10th April
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Yes, I heard of someone local who gave a car the wker sign after some sort of altercation and the driver turned around and rammed him. Never know who you are dealing with.