Tyre warming banned for 2018 by MSA
Discussion
randlemarcus said:
Not familiar with MSA language, but surely that language means that any appeal based on the tyre temperature at the end of the run being higher than ambient must succeed?
We are not talking temperature increases when racing as this would make all racing illegal! This is just about heating tyres PRIOR to the run.I'm guessing its an environmental rule and drag racing is just the worst affected as Sprints and Hill Climbs will be able to adapt a lot easier. We drag racers have a stark choice, either change with the times or die. I for one will change and have already discussed options with my engine/ECU/suspension gurus. With todays electronic wizardry I am sure we can manage on colder tyres.
clubracing said:
Surely the rule is intended to prevent the use of tyre blankets or tyre ovens for heating the tyres prior to the run? Just it's very poorly worded as is usually the case with the MSA.
Tyre blankets and ovens are not used in drag racing. This is, as it actually says, an environmental rule so will include burnouts as these raise the tyre temperature abnormally.However, I have asked Santa Pod for their interpretation on the new rule and I am awaiting a response. Also spoke to MSA but the person dealing with this isn't back in the office until Thursday. The guy I spoke to promised to get back to me once he has spoken to them.
Edited by stevebroad on Tuesday 15th August 18:07
LWG95 said:
Actually, the rule does not mention prior to a run, or indeed any time frame... One wonders if it will be applied to F1 ?
Also, it could be interpreted that a burnout is part and parcel of a performance run as an integral part of it.
One despair's at the political correctness/green fantasists of today's world in so many areas....
Doesn't need to, just bans any abnormal tyre warming for sprint, hill climbing and drag racing.Also, it could be interpreted that a burnout is part and parcel of a performance run as an integral part of it.
One despair's at the political correctness/green fantasists of today's world in so many areas....
Burnout is indeed part of a drag race, but rules are rules. Burnouts weren't part of drag racing in the early 60s.
Hopefully I will find out on Thursday.
Burnouts are an obvious environmentally bad thing so I am not surprised that the MSA have been pressurised into this rule change.
clubracing said:
I think several people are getting the wrong end of the stick with this regulation change.
The new regulation 9.3.1.1, is an addendum to the existing rule 9.3.1, which states:
"9.3.1. The spinning of wheels (tyre warming) will only be permitted in a designated area and which should be clearly defined."
The MSA has made the distinction between 'tyre warming' (burnouts) and 'tyre heating'. The explanation says "the heating of tyres by mechanical methods" i.e by a machine other than the vehicle.
If this is correct then there is no issue. I, hopefully, will find out tomorrow and let everyone know.The new regulation 9.3.1.1, is an addendum to the existing rule 9.3.1, which states:
"9.3.1. The spinning of wheels (tyre warming) will only be permitted in a designated area and which should be clearly defined."
The MSA has made the distinction between 'tyre warming' (burnouts) and 'tyre heating'. The explanation says "the heating of tyres by mechanical methods" i.e by a machine other than the vehicle.
clubracing said:
I think several people are getting the wrong end of the stick with this regulation change.
The new regulation 9.3.1.1, is an addendum to the existing rule 9.3.1, which states:
"9.3.1. The spinning of wheels (tyre warming) will only be permitted in a designated area and which should be clearly defined."
The MSA has made the distinction between 'tyre warming' (burnouts) and 'tyre heating'. The explanation says "the heating of tyres by mechanical methods" i.e by a machine other than the vehicle.
If this is correct then there is no issue. I, hopefully, will find out tomorrow and let everyone know.The new regulation 9.3.1.1, is an addendum to the existing rule 9.3.1, which states:
"9.3.1. The spinning of wheels (tyre warming) will only be permitted in a designated area and which should be clearly defined."
The MSA has made the distinction between 'tyre warming' (burnouts) and 'tyre heating'. The explanation says "the heating of tyres by mechanical methods" i.e by a machine other than the vehicle.
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Aug
The MSA has issued a clarification of the recently published regulation change regarding the heating of tyres in Sprints, Hill Climbs and Drag Racing. This clarification, shown as red additions and struck through deletions, is as follows:
(S)9.3.1.1. With the exception of Drag Racing, tThe heating of tyres, by any method other than 9.3.1. above, or their treatment by any chemical substance is prohibited. For the avoidance of doubt, no manner of abnormally raising the temperature of the tyres/wheels above the natural ambient temperature is allowed.
Date of implementation: 1 January 2018.
Reason: Having been approved by MSC in June and subsequently publicised it became apparent that the above clarification is necessary.
This communication is for general release and is authorised to hold regulatory value.
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