Noise limits - are we going to have a real problem?

[speedfr0g]

Hi all

This side of PH is always very quiet ... but I thought there is a current topic in the press and TV regarding excessive noise and the wish to legislate which should be of interest to most of the local PH community.

Here are some links
http://www.laerm.ch/fr/gestion-du-bruit/sources-de...
https://www.bafu.admin.ch/bafu/fr/home/themes/brui...

Only in local languages DE/FR/IT - google translate otherwise ...

An English language article about Austria which banned some routes from motorcycles
https://motorcycles.news/en/driving-ban-for-too-lo...


Whilst the will is there now in Switzerland to do something, the main questions to me are :

How quickly can something be formulated and put into law ?
Is there an ability to put rules like 92 db in certain areas in effect forbidding most motorbikes and a lot of (interesting) cars ? This despite the vehicles being in conformity at the time of sale with regulations ?
Will there be grandfathering provisions, thereby allowing existing cars/bikes to continue ?

Looking forward to your views and additional insight you might have !

Cheers

Eric

[speedfr0g]

Hi Kawasicki

Not quite sure why you wrote this?

Did you follow the links I provided? Are you aware of the CURRENT SWISS situation?
Linking to any discussion that is a year ago and concerns Austria just gives the impression the topic is not worth a discussion and stops contributions on a board that is already lacking in interaction.

So please, everyone else, do contribute your topical knowledge or reactions.

Cheers

Speedfr0g

[speedfr0g]

Hi JMGS4

I am a biker too and I have not modified my bike ... it is just noisy out-of-the-box (Panigale V4) but is as it was approved for registration.
I also have cars in road legal condition but they do make noise.
I am looking to buy a Challenge Stradale and this is a car with a beautiful noise but extremely (yet factory spec) loud. I wonder whether we will be able to enjoy those vehicles for much longer despite being in conformity with current rules.

I also agree with you that it is a few who push things too far and yet we will all end up with a bad situation.

Cheers

Speedfr0g

[speedfr0g]

Hi

Here is the link to the national council giving the go ahead to look into the matter

https://www.parlament.ch/en/ratsbetrieb/suche-curi...

Cheers

Eric

[speedfr0g]

Hi AW10

Roads around here can be amazing ... so it is very tempting to come over.
The main thing to look for is SPEED as the law here is very strict and you can risk having your car impounded and have to pay larges fines / could be banned from coming back to Switzerland ....

Here is a quick link to something about it :

https://en.comparis.ch/autoversicherung/recht-gese...

Now to your question of noise, the attitude is very much : does the car correspond to what it was coming out the factory / what noise in standard spec does it make.
If baffles have been taken out or straight pipes ... then you are more likely to have issues ...
... having said that, I would think you are unlikely to be caught for that if you go to deserted mountain passes ... quite different to going into a big city center and revving your engines and popping/banging the exhaust.

But if you are stopped for speeding ... then maybe they will look at noise, bald tyres, ....

Hope this helps

Cheers

Eric