MSV Bedford GT 20th August

[NardoRS]

Anyone here heading out to Bedford for the MSV track day on the 20th?
New on this forum but looks like a good group of track minded enthusiasts!
I attended one here back in May for the first outing of the TTRS and do love this track! Hard on the brakes though and prompted me to upgrade pads and rotors right away.

[NardoRS]

TTR46 said:

NardoRS said:

Anyone here heading out to Bedford for the MSV track day on the 20th?
New on this forum but looks like a good group of track minded enthusiasts!
I attended one here back in May for the first outing of the TTRS and do love this track! Hard on the brakes though and prompted me to upgrade pads and rotors right away.

I'll be there in my white M2!

Great, I’ll be sure to say hello! Have you had the M2 out on Bedford before?

[NardoRS]

JB! said:

I'll be there, crappy white Civic

See you there!

[NardoRS]

TTR46 said:

First time out in the M2, but I've done a Bedford Track day once before so I sort of know the circuit.

I think the track will suit an M2; any mods?

[NardoRS]

TTR46 said:

Just front camber plates, PFC 08 pads, uprated brake fluid and some Pilot Sport Cup 2's!

Should be all set then! Cup 2’s are my next upgrade..just using up the Bridgestone SO1’s that came with the car and aren’t bad but looking forward to the sticky Michelin’s! I’ve used the original Cups before on a 996 and liked them a lot, cup2’s are supposed to be quite a bit better.

[NardoRS]

TTR46 said:

First time on Cup 2's for me, they're bloody awesome. Cannot wait for Monday! Will keep an eye out for you. Is it just a free for all when it comes to the pit garages?

Yeah, with MSV it is a free for all. Helps if you are out the briefing and in your car as soon as poss.
I’ve only been to Bedford once and did not get one until later in the afternoon. Great track and can’t wait also...first outing with the new brake setup!

[NardoRS]

TTR46 said:

I'll be sitting at the back for the briefing then

What pads are you running?

👍😄..
I’m running Pagid RSL 29’s up front and stock in back. Really liking the feel on the road; they work well from cold and are rated to work at very high temps also. Not cheap at £500 for the front axle but if they are anything like the pagids I’ve used before they will last and are kind to rotors.
See you all tomorrow!😁

[NardoRS]

TTR46 said:

Any brake squeal on the road? The PFC 08's are great on track, but absolute murder on the road. Noise every time I press the damn brake pedal!

No, surprisingly very little squeal at all; only a bit when coming to a stop once the brakes are warm but no noise when braking at speed even if light application.

[NardoRS]

Test driver said:

Good day today, some nice motors and a good turnout.

Track was closed briefly for a Subaru in the kitty litter, and a few yellow flags throughout the day but no major problems.

Great day out there yesterday! A nice selection of cars...TT ran well especially in the afternoon sessions and only missed a beat when I almost ran out of fuel on track, went through at least 75 litres!..
Now more camber needed up front and cup2’s ...really passed the limits of the street tyres yesterday.

[NardoRS]

TTR46 said:

Here's my best 2 laps from today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8KFiOs3ToI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSImIbgFd1U

Probably some more time to shave off, but happy with the last few sessions.

Good to meet you yesterday and well driven!
There is time to be had at this circuit especially in the fast transitions (straight chicane, last 2 corners, Palmer curves) and that’s what I find enjoyable about going there; always a challenge and the perfect lap will always be there to be had!

[NardoRS]

Video below of a few laps in the afternoon running 2:49’s with a bit of traffic. Great day all in all, motor was strong, really needing 2 degrees negative camber up front (plates should be here tomorrow!) and Pilot Sport Cup 2’s as my choice tyre. Only my second track day with the car, both at Bedford and plenty of time to be had with more grip. Overall really happy with the balance and feedback of this TT!
https://youtu.be/98MbAzugLmc

[NardoRS]

TTR46 said:

Damn dude, that's a quick time on normal road tyres!

I was pleased to break in to the 2:40’s but know there’s more; obviously getting a clear run is one, then also this track is quite a technical mix and on my second visit I now know where there is a bit more in the current setup. The straight chicane I was overbraking instead of focusing on carrying speed through and down the following straight (I like your line through there!) and there’s some left on the table in a couple of fast sweepers including the last corner. Out of interest what speed were you carrying through that last one? Looked quick when I saw you from the pit lane!
With track tyres and camber plates I’d be aiming at low 2:40’s with this car. Anything more planned for the M2?

[NardoRS]

TTR46 said:

Last corner I would guess 95mph at fastest. But you've got to use a lot of kerb on the inside and exit. Low 2:40's should be doable, similar pace to the M2 it seems.

Not got much more planned, maybe a set of Öhlins. I'm thinking about picking up an Exige 350 as a track car. The rate I eat through consumables on the M2 is just insanity!

When are you next planning on another Bedford outing?

Probably get back to Bedford as soon as I get the camber plates and cup2’s on. Croft is my local circuit so I’d like to go there soon also. I spent 25 years living in the US so all the UK tracks are new to me.
Are you going through brake pads quickly? Might want to try some Pagid RSL 29’s; they do last well.
Exige 350 would be great, but If I were you I’d develop the M2...more fun to see where you can get it to! Ohlins should make a good bit of difference.

[NardoRS]

TTR46 said:

Post something up when you're next heading there, I'll probably come along. My PFC 08's have about 70% left in them, but the discs are looking like they need to be replaced soon. Would certainly be fun to keep pushing the M2, but the inherent mass of the car and my "driving style".......or lack of mechanical sympathy! is causing me to go through a set of front tyres every 1/2 track days.

Will do; getting camber plates in this Thursday (fixed camber still with the rubber isolator so should be ok on nvh).
Have you looked into an AP 2 piece rotor solution?..they cool much better and are significantly lighter but ultimately you’ll need to upgrade your calipers at the pace you are running; the stock calipers will not be up to the heat of repeated lapping (which is what we want to do!) I am upgrading mine (stock caliper on my car was used on Lambo Gallardo and R8 with steel discs but fry on the track with heavy use and take 4 pads for each caliper!) to the new AP 5660 6 piston race caliper. They will need more maintaining as no dust boots (stock dust boots are melted anyway) and possibly a bit of a rattle from the pads (solutions are available). There are kits available for the M2 (Essex parts in the US has bbk that sell through distributors here.
See you at the track soon (ish)...will let you know!