PH Trackdayers, would you rather have...

PH Trackdayers, would you rather have...

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Partyvan

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131 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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...Car A or Car B?

Car A...
Is a dedicated track car, very hardcore, absolutely sublime on track. Very light, very quick, intense and exciting. However, it is un-useable on road (meaning you must drive a dull A4 diesel as a daily). It also requires a lot of tinkering to keep it running sweet which is often stressful and must be trailered to track. It cannot go on a Nurburgring TF session, only on a Ring trackday.

Car B...
Is a capable track car, it's newer and more reliable than car A and is mostly factory standard. It's plenty comfortable enough to daily and only requires normal servicing / wear and tear items. It can be driven to and used on the Ring. It has working aircon. It's 90% as quick and 70% as rewarding as car A. It does the job very well but doesn't quite thrill your tits off.

You currently own car A. You could break it, the funds from which would purchase car B.

Partyvan

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131 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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Pericoloso said:
B ...all day long , trailers , no thanks , not allowed Ring TF , no thanks .
Thankyou

B is clearly the superior car in every respect, other than when arrived at and running on the track

Partyvan

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464 posts

131 months

Wednesday 14th October 2020
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Thankyou for the views gents

My head agrees - B is the way forwards

But my heart is in A

Partyvan

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131 months

Wednesday 14th October 2020
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Perhaps the sweet spot is something as track hardcore as possible, whilst still being just about tolerable for the road.

Something with carpets, air conditioning, non-winged buckets, rear cage and suspension that isn't rosejointed or otherwise intolerable.

Partyvan

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Wednesday 14th October 2020
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Thankyou gents

More opinions welcome - it's helping me get my head around the whole situation.

Partyvan

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Wednesday 14th October 2020
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A typical year for me is about 8 trackdays and a Ring TF trip

I need a car I can tow with for my work anyway, so the A4 daily is staying.

My issue is car A is full of heartache but I'm seriously invested in it financially and emotionally. Head says car B will be more realistic.

Partyvan

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131 months

Sunday 18th October 2020
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braddo said:
Tell us about your car A. smile is it the crx in your profile photo?

I would have said to consider a Westfield or Caterham except that you’re doing TFs. I’ve done track days in classic cars and caterhams and enjoy road blasts etc in them, but safety-wise the ring in a 7 car is a step too far for me.

Even a pretty modest Caterham will match the pace of pretty much any fwd track car while being more reliable, lower cost and drivable in the road. It always means having a lot of cash tied up in the purchase price though.
Hi yes it's the CRX, which has a Honda K20 engine in it.

Caterfields aren't my thing at all. I grew up loving 90's BTCC, so anything I drive has to have a metal roof!

Partyvan

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Sunday 18th October 2020
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Thankyou for all the input gents.

I'm going to drag car A to a couple of trackdays this month, and see how it performs and makes me feel and make a decision based of that.

It'll either re-kindle the love, or confirm that I need an easier life!

Partyvan

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Sunday 25th October 2020
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Car A wasn't suited to the wet trackday at Oulton so the tow car got taken on instead!








What a fantastic day. Lots of sideways action and dozens of overtakes caught on camera including E36 M3, Caterham, 2x Megane 265, 2x new Megane Trophy R, EP3 Turbo, Boxster S, Audi RS5, Impreza, V12 Vantage and a brand new Elise!
Only one car came past me all day... a seriously quick Mk5 Golf Edition 30. It was absolutely ballistic!

Partyvan

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Wednesday 18th November 2020
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So, I have a decision

Car A (my CRX) is going.

It's going to be replaced by an E92 M3 DCT, a 911 Turbo (996/997) with PCCB or a B7 RS4 Avant with carbon brakes.

All of the above would be in "Clubsport" spec with no silly mods.

Partyvan

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Thursday 19th November 2020
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Tommie38 said:
B, having done both at different points.

I think that most people on PH that have highly modified/specialist cars rarely get the value from them. There are cars that I have spent what, at the time, was big money on things like suspension and brakes, only to realise I only ever did 4 TDs before I sold them...

Very different to the people with A that do lots of TDs, ‘ring trips or even things like hill climbs. For that A makes a lot more sense.
That makes sense

A car that gets it's monies worth from the mods you do to it