Failed vetting for a Police call handler job
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I'm wondering if the collective wisdom of PH can assist with this one. A friend of mine recently applied for a role as a call handler for a Police force and was successful in her application. As part of the process she was then vetted prior to being offered the position and unfortunately has failed because she has a friend who is in prison, and with whom she has been in infrequent contact for several years. She was honest and upfront about declaring the association in line with the vetting requirement; ie. it's not something she withheld which later came to light.
In the run up to applying for the role she said that she would have to cease contact with this person and did so approximately 2 months ago.
The initial appeal was denied and she has the option to pursue a second stage appeal. The reason for the failure is "...you have recently ceased contact with one of your associates; however, your association with him up until this point has caused concern over your vulnerability if you were to work for XYZ Police Force."
Obviously my friend is upset that the job opportunity has been jeopardised by what can best be described as a loose historical friendship. Can anyone offer any advice for the second stage appeal and what might serve to help with making the appeal successful?
Is she on a hiding to nothing?
In the run up to applying for the role she said that she would have to cease contact with this person and did so approximately 2 months ago.
The initial appeal was denied and she has the option to pursue a second stage appeal. The reason for the failure is "...you have recently ceased contact with one of your associates; however, your association with him up until this point has caused concern over your vulnerability if you were to work for XYZ Police Force."
Obviously my friend is upset that the job opportunity has been jeopardised by what can best be described as a loose historical friendship. Can anyone offer any advice for the second stage appeal and what might serve to help with making the appeal successful?
Is she on a hiding to nothing?
I did think it was very harsh but then I guess there's a reason why they vet. My friend has no arrests, convictions or history with the Police at all. The quoted part of the letter is the reason why they've declined her.
It does seem somewhat unjust which was why I've posted here to see whether it's a) typical and b) surmountable. I'd guess with the second appeal it's probably the last opportunity to 'win'.
It does seem somewhat unjust which was why I've posted here to see whether it's a) typical and b) surmountable. I'd guess with the second appeal it's probably the last opportunity to 'win'.
As I understand he's in prison for having pictures of his girlfriend on his phone - there was a couple of years between them and when he turned 18 she was still 15 so technically bang to rights.
Whilst that's still less than ideal, it's hardly organised crime or money laundering for international arms deals.
It seems harsh to tar her with his brush but technically he's a criminal and technically she associated with him.
Whilst that's still less than ideal, it's hardly organised crime or money laundering for international arms deals.
It seems harsh to tar her with his brush but technically he's a criminal and technically she associated with him.
Edited by Funk on Thursday 20th August 09:45
It's possible but knowing her I'd say unlikely. She's had no history with the Police, no drugs or anything like that. She was asked as part of the vetting to disclose any association with anyone who has a criminal record and she duly put this guy's details down.
I can well believe it's possible that it's 'tripped the switch' on the application, it just seems particularly harsh in my view. I'd like to help her write a second-stage appeal that stands a chance at getting her the role which, incidentally, I can imagine she'd be excellent at.
I can well believe it's possible that it's 'tripped the switch' on the application, it just seems particularly harsh in my view. I'd like to help her write a second-stage appeal that stands a chance at getting her the role which, incidentally, I can imagine she'd be excellent at.
PorkInsider said:
KFC said:
Funk said:
As I understand he's in prison for having pictures of his girlfriend on his phone - there was a couple of years between them and when he turned 18 she was still 15 so technically bang to rights.
Whilst that's still less than ideal, it's hardly organised crime or money laundering for international arms deals.
It seems harsh to tar her with his brush but technically he's a criminal and technically she associated with him.
I don't think you're getting the full picture here. Whilst that's still less than ideal, it's hardly organised crime or money laundering for international arms deals.
It seems harsh to tar her with his brush but technically he's a criminal and technically she associated with him.
Edited by Funk on Thursday 20th August 09:45
I doubt he'd be in prison for that.
On the C4 24hrs in Police Custody programme last week there were 2 people (a doctor and someone who worked in a school) who were caught possessing and sharing child abuse pics, including very young kids, and neither went to prison IIRC.
I guess it highlights the risk of having any links with someone convicted of a crime.
Sylvaforever said:
I know of someone, who on renewal, 4th time ,for his firearms certificate, on this occasion omitted to declare a traffic offence [sp50 I seem to remember] from the 80s and had his ticket revoked for failing to provide full disclosure..
I've had an SP50 in the past and can remember when it was. Not that I'm applying for a shotgun licence but of interest would you need to declare SP30s as well? Had several in my younger years and would have no idea exactly when they were - it was ~20 years ago! Also in my defence I was doing 25-30k miles/yr so the chances of getting nabbed were significantly higher than with the 6k/yr I do now... 
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