Arriving at work early
Discussion
Hi all,
So for years at my workplace colleagues have had to arrive approx 15 min before their start time to set up they’re computers (they take at least 10 mins to boot up due to the age of them).
For example, if you start at 8, you must arrive at 7.45. If you arrive at 8, you are classed as late as you cannot sign in at 8 due to the systems not being up.
Is this allowed? We don’t get paid for this extra 15 min
So for years at my workplace colleagues have had to arrive approx 15 min before their start time to set up they’re computers (they take at least 10 mins to boot up due to the age of them).
For example, if you start at 8, you must arrive at 7.45. If you arrive at 8, you are classed as late as you cannot sign in at 8 due to the systems not being up.
Is this allowed? We don’t get paid for this extra 15 min
It’s a very large office with about 70 employees, we have our own personal logins so unfortunately no one can boot the systems up for us. No one has said anything to management as it has been like this for as long as I can remember. For the sake of 15 mins extra I think they don’t bother complaining
Hi all,
I get paid for 40 hrs a week.
I’m going to raise this with my manager but I need a solid piece of evidence from somewhere like ACAS/gov uk which specifies that this isn’t allowed.
The computers are old hence why they take 10mins to boot, then an extra 5 mins for us to set up the systems.
If we sign in a minute later than our starting time we are told to ‘come in earlier’ so our systems can be up and running.
If anyone could provide me with any links on legislation for this I would be extremely grateful
I get paid for 40 hrs a week.
I’m going to raise this with my manager but I need a solid piece of evidence from somewhere like ACAS/gov uk which specifies that this isn’t allowed.
The computers are old hence why they take 10mins to boot, then an extra 5 mins for us to set up the systems.
If we sign in a minute later than our starting time we are told to ‘come in earlier’ so our systems can be up and running.
If anyone could provide me with any links on legislation for this I would be extremely grateful
Jasandjules said:
The meaning pursuant to the WTR
Meaning of working time
The concept of "working time" is relevant to the WTR 1998 rules on the average maximum working week, night working, rest periods and rest breaks. Working time is defined as:
Any period during which the worker is:
working;
carrying out his duties; and
at the employer's disposal.
(All three criteria must be met.)
So in my case,Meaning of working time
The concept of "working time" is relevant to the WTR 1998 rules on the average maximum working week, night working, rest periods and rest breaks. Working time is defined as:
Any period during which the worker is:
working;
carrying out his duties; and
at the employer's disposal.
(All three criteria must be met.)
Do you think I would have a leg to stand on?
Jasandjules said:
Yes the relevant question is generally whether or not you are present at a place required by the employer and able to work. Would you like some ECJ caselaw?
But if you really want to do anything about it then you want to speak to an employment lawyer who can assist you as their client.
Hi, yes I need as much info as I can get at this stage.But if you really want to do anything about it then you want to speak to an employment lawyer who can assist you as their client.
Edited by Jasandjules on Wednesday 24th October 19:43
Although my fear is, if I was to approach management with this they may see me as a problem and I could be tarnished for my remaining time there.
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