Outcome of yearly performance review doesn't match input

Outcome of yearly performance review doesn't match input

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six wheels

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Friday 17th March 2023
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Hi all,

This might be one of two threads, with the second about preparing my CV and profile for a new role.

In brief(!):
- I have been with an organisation for approx. 5 years.
- My formal job title and role has not changed, however...
-...in that time I've been asked to undertake a higher-level role with wildy higher accountabilities.
- Every single year - bar this - has seen an "outstanding" rating following our yearly review process.
- This year that rating is "*partially* hitting targets" despite probably better performance and stronger evidence than previous years.
- This differs to the review material I submitted where I demonstrated I was meeting or exceeding all targets.
- I have no clue what targets I am not hitting in full. Some informal/adhoc comments from my line manager, nothing written down.

It feels like either a hatchet job, or my face doesn't fit anymore. Either way this will cost me thousands come bonus time in the summer.

I am torn on this between shrugging it off and simply leaving, or instead being noisy and making trouble - and then leaving.

My logic is this:
- My role hasn't formally changed.
- There is no evidence of what targets I haven't met.
- *Something*. Grievance? Constructive dismissal?




Have you experienced similar?

How's my logic?


Thank you.

six wheels

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hepy said:
Ask for an explanation first of why the rating has been given.

It may be that while you have hit any financial or numerical targets, you haven’t hit more non-descript ones e.g. any CPD for the role.

Whole load of things they could mark you down for. This is speaking as someone who initially got downgraded due to not coming in to the office enough and joining in. I pointed out I wasn’t measured on my talkativeness, and the rating was upgraded.

The s**t they pull.
I do plan to ask for the reasons/gaps in writing.

What is CPD - continual performance development?

I’d suggest if a target isn’t SMART, written down and agreed, well then it’s not a target.

six wheels

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Puzzles said:
sounds like classic creep, you have a more senior position you are being benchmarked against but without the pay
I suspect so.

I’m not unhappy to be targeted on the senior position, but I feel they don’t get to decide the performance criteria at the end of the process rather than the start.

six wheels

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Hammersia said:
Nuclear option is to resign of course in the expectation that they may revise their appraisal, pay rise, bonus etc.

Depends who's holding the cards really.
I must leave either way. This is not the first issue in terms of basic human respect.

People are simply not valued at this organisation. That isn’t an emotional statement, it’s objective.

They have all the cards so any threat will be shrugged off with a “computer says no” type attitude.

My route here I think is using our own procedures.


six wheels

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Friday 17th March 2023
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Thank you for the responses.

One day - not today - I’ll try and multi-quite to reply

six wheels

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Friday 17th March 2023
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Countdown said:
Just playing Devil's Avocado for a minute - in 5 previous years you have been rated as Outstanding and (I assume) your bonuses reflected this. You have also been promoted and (again I assume) you've had a salary uplift in recognition of this. That doesn't sound lthey don't value you.

In terms of target setting - were SMART targets set when you achieved "outstanding"? Has that changed this year?
Thank you for your response and fair challenge.

- '5 previous years you have been rated as Outstanding and (I assume) your bonuses reflected this = correct, they did.

- You have also been promoted and (again I assume) you've had a salary uplift in recognition of this = incorrect. Informal promotion, not official and no commensurate pay increase*.

  • I realise this marks me out as a bit of a mug. Frankly the bonuses - and knowing the people value thing isn't there - I'd either given up fighting it or let it go.


To now play the Devil's flamingo, I will concede my immediate LM does value me and is an advocate.

The quality and SMARTness of target setting, and the evidence to support the achievement of those targets, has not changed.

six wheels

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Friday 17th March 2023
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Pedro25 said:
Corporate world!! I had this in 2015, part of a large team that I was in the top 2 for budgets, delivery, mentoring etc. Line manager's 1st question on my review "What do you think you could have done better?" I resigned there and then gave them 3 months notice, never went back to corporate again.
Fair play to you!

I'd love to do that but I'm not fast enough or ballsy enough.

I'm the person who will think of that later, never at the time.

six wheels

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Elysium said:
It's certainly not constructive dismissal or a grievance issue.
OK, fair. I've re-read my post and regret that line.

Elysium said:
The idea that you are going down that thought process purely because you have not recieved an 'oustanding' rating is a bit of a red flag if I am honest.
That's not quite right. If they can demonstrate where the gaps are, my mindset might change.

This is the other side of the SMART coin - "show me the measurement by which this target was missed". If they can't show me that = red flag.


Elysium said:
You also talk about your determination to leave and I wonder if this is all visible in your day to day performance?
Also fair. Food for thought.


Elysium said:
The bottom line is that no annual review process is going to achieve anything if the employee doesn't understand the rating. The obvious way forward is to speak to your boss and ask what you need to do to be outstanding.
Keeps coming back to that same point and is strengthening my resolve. I need to understand those specific gaps.


Your reply stung a bit - red flag - but is helpful, so thank you.

six wheels

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Countdown said:
Thanks for clarifying. FWIW I don't think you're a mug for not insisting on a pay rise for an informal promotion; Ive done it 3 times because either (a) It puts you in pole position when you apply for the permanent role or (b) It strengthens your CV as potential Employers cans ee you have experience of working at a higher level.

If the target setting process hasn't changed, and it worked appropriately before, I wonder why it's not working now?
That is worth something, so thank you.

Yes. Formalised or not, the role changes will help my future career.

As to the reasoning, I think it's a bit of this:
Olivera said:
Forced bell curve distribution, aka inter-ranking.

six wheels

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Elysium said:
six wheels said:
Your reply stung a bit - red flag - but is helpful, so thank you.
I hope so. It was certainly well intended smile
Actually, very helpful. A direct challenge on my thinking and helping to shore it up. Appreciated.

What a pleasant exchange on the internet!

six wheels

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Sunday Drive said:
Ask for time with your manager, receive and discuss the detail.
I will now!

Sunday Drive said:
If you don’t like it, move on. It’s still a candidates market.
That's good to know re the second thread I need to start.

six wheels

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Friday 17th March 2023
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I’ve had some very helpful advice here. Thank you.

A lot of us have old wounds, too.

six wheels

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Saturday 18th March 2023
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To everyone who has responded: thank you.

I very much appreciate all the replies. There’s a lot here to think about. If I can, I’ll share what happens next

Again, thank you.

six wheels

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Monday 24th July 2023
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Chicken_Satay said:
I read this topic with interest as I have a similar situation at work. Any updates? What was the outcome of any further detailed feedback conversations?
Hi, I’m the OP.

I’m a sorry to hear you have a similar situation.

At my place it was a combination of:
1) senior management treating people very poorly (not just me or this situation, this is consistent and from the top).

2) some mistakes on my part (some fair-but-complex, some absolute fluff).

3) a hatchet job, or minimally the managers of other teams putting everyone else down, rather than focussing on the achievements of their own people.


I left the organisation and I’m taking the summer off. I know I’m better off out of there.

I’ll not presume to give you advice. So for me, if I ever encounter an organisation where the behaviours in 1 & 3 are prevalent, I’ll know it’s not going to change and that it isn’t for me.


What’s happening with your place?

six wheels

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Monday 24th July 2023
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craigjm said:
Maybe but I just find it funny that having worked with over 500 companies of varying scale, industry and world reaches that the vast majority of PH posters who post on this board appear to work in a a Dilbert comic strip. Of course you see stuff like this but in my experience it’s hardly the “every company” and “everyone in every company” that this place seems to suggest. I guess it’s the job equivalent of “my engine is fked” though making it sound like that.
I appreciate you’re not responding to me there.

Surely there’s some sort of confirmation bias with these boards and such threads though?

I don’t imagine people post when things are going well, in the same way they don’t post each consecutive month that their engine *doesn’t* breakdown.

six wheels

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Monday 24th July 2023
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Chicken_Satay said:
...the outcome of my yearly performance review, and expected subsequent pay rise, doesn't match the input. Why is this? Despite the fact that I've been ticking all the boxes on my objectives and seem to have been doing well, I won't get a pay rise and haven't had one for two years! I think this does go right back to a point that someone mentioned earlier about cost control and saving thousands on their employees.
Without knowing you, your organisation or the detail of your situation...you're probably correct.

If you do push this and ask the question, "why is this?", then you'll be letting the genie out. Playing it through, you might get the recognition you need/want/deserve or get black-balled.

That may or may not be worth it or matter.


Chicken_Satay said:
I know it's time to leave...
Just quoting this back to you wink



Chicken_Satay said:
I think it's a shame that you've ended up having to take the summer off, rather than advance in existing your role or any new role instead.
That's kind of you to say so, thank you. On the plus side, this gives me time with our son over the summer, and for me to re-charge, so all good smile


Good luck beer