Opinion on Bremont Watches
Discussion
I've been looking at the Jaguar range of watches on offer by bremont, and wondered what people thought of the brand, and these car inspired watches.
The one i'm tempted by is this one:
http://www.bremont.com/collection/bremont-jaguar/m...
Here is the full range of Jaguar models.
http://www.bremont.com/collection/bremont-jaguar
Would you consider asking for a 15-20% discount at a local dealers reasonable? I do worry a little about future value when say compared with Omega and other brands.
Andy
The one i'm tempted by is this one:
http://www.bremont.com/collection/bremont-jaguar/m...
Here is the full range of Jaguar models.
http://www.bremont.com/collection/bremont-jaguar
Would you consider asking for a 15-20% discount at a local dealers reasonable? I do worry a little about future value when say compared with Omega and other brands.
Andy
Yex 450 said:
I have a Bremont MB III and really love wearing it. The watch is currently on the leather strap with black DLC deployment clasp and I also have the black rubber strap with the standard silver buckle if I fancy a chance.
Overall the product is well made using high quality components and I was pleased to see the leather wallet it comes with along with the strap change tool and pockets for additional straps, buckles etc.
If you are looking for a discount and do not get anywhere with your local dealer look up "DominicH" on here, or got to his website http://www.hackettwatches.com/ and drop him a line. He supplied my one
Overall the product is well made using high quality components and I was pleased to see the leather wallet it comes with along with the strap change tool and pockets for additional straps, buckles etc.
If you are looking for a discount and do not get anywhere with your local dealer look up "DominicH" on here, or got to his website http://www.hackettwatches.com/ and drop him a line. He supplied my one
Thanks for the feedback, i'm waiting on the dealer to give me a call back, and see if they have one in stock to go look at and try on.
Will let you know how i get on.
Will keep Dominic in mind so thanks for the pointer.
Andy
Hi All,
Well this brand really does split opinions....
Ok well thanks for all your opinions and pictures of watches, and so here is an update from me:
I contacted bremont UK about these jaguar inspired watches, and asked a simple question about strap type/colour/style and had a reply within 2 hours so that's a real plus and backs up comments made here re: customer service.
I've visited a local Bremont stockist, and managed to have a look at many of the range, in particular the three Jaguar ones (the ones that caught my eye in the first place)
Tried on all of the Jaguar ones so Mk1/2/3 and am leaning towards the Mk3 with its simpler face design and blue strap at £3495 RRP.
I have to say I did like them, quality, weight and feel seems very good, the higher priced ones have a very pretty visible movement and a design internally of the E-types steering wheel, and overall given the 3 year warranty, a dealer 8 miles from my house, good customer service and a quality feeling product I must say overall pretty impressed.
My comments initially over residual values were my only sticking point (not that I intended to invest in it or make any money that'd be silly thing to do on a modern watch that isn't a rolex) but there are also many other premium long established brands which have poor used resale's one of which being Tag Heur, and I don't think it makes much difference if a watch maker collaborates or not some brands still lose a lot of money.
Looking at used values I'm not sure they drop as much as people indicate:
http://www.watchfinder.co.uk/Bremont/Martin-Baker/...
So what I'll do next depends on what price I can get it for. I've asked the dealer about discount, and they are going to call me before Wednesday with an answer (the shop owner was away) although it was indicated a discount was not a problem, so if I can get the price to start with a £2K and not a £3K then potential result my aim is to get 22% so lets see....
I should also point out my initial draw to these watches is in fact 50% part the Jaguar E-type theme, and whether they had anything to do with Jaguar E-type 50 years ago is not really a major concern to me, there are plenty of brand of product that endorse or collaborate with other makers of other products or organisations and it doesn't devalue the desirability of the product to me at all that there might not be documented history going back 50 years to backup the theme or a particular collaboration, for me personally this watch will compliment my own E-type car perfectly indeed.
Bremont did supply some watches to Jaguar for the initial build of 6 lightweight heritage cars and these were given to the buyers as a gift with the cars, I presume this is what they are making reference to on the website and marketing? Jaguar clearly made a choice and worked with Bremont to market their brand on a watch and in my mind its a nice idea one Jaguar are clearly not exactly upset about. If this had been done by another watch maker than so be it, maybe I'd be looking at their brand as well now. so for me (a car guy, who owns an E-type) its a good thing, they look good, have good warranty, local dealer, and are being aimed and priced mid way in a large market of 'just ok' watches, and this may turn out to be another 'just ok' watch but for me to have a nice watch that's inspired by cars I like can only a good thing.
What I will say is some of the Bremont watches priced in excess of £6K (like some Ltd edition and I think the Boing one) and more specifically the Mk1 Jaguar one with 'their own movement' does not warrant £8448 and I made this clear to the dealer, and expressed as a customer if you were spending £6/8K you'd be looking at a totally different brands like Rolex, Panerai etc.
But this doesn't mean the ones priced £3495 to £4500 are way overpriced, and just because they have not been around for 100 years doesn't mean they are of poor quality, or have poor brand presence, there are far worse watches around the marketplace within this price point.
Thanks again for all of your views and feedback.
Andy
Well this brand really does split opinions....
Ok well thanks for all your opinions and pictures of watches, and so here is an update from me:
I contacted bremont UK about these jaguar inspired watches, and asked a simple question about strap type/colour/style and had a reply within 2 hours so that's a real plus and backs up comments made here re: customer service.
I've visited a local Bremont stockist, and managed to have a look at many of the range, in particular the three Jaguar ones (the ones that caught my eye in the first place)
Tried on all of the Jaguar ones so Mk1/2/3 and am leaning towards the Mk3 with its simpler face design and blue strap at £3495 RRP.
I have to say I did like them, quality, weight and feel seems very good, the higher priced ones have a very pretty visible movement and a design internally of the E-types steering wheel, and overall given the 3 year warranty, a dealer 8 miles from my house, good customer service and a quality feeling product I must say overall pretty impressed.
My comments initially over residual values were my only sticking point (not that I intended to invest in it or make any money that'd be silly thing to do on a modern watch that isn't a rolex) but there are also many other premium long established brands which have poor used resale's one of which being Tag Heur, and I don't think it makes much difference if a watch maker collaborates or not some brands still lose a lot of money.
Looking at used values I'm not sure they drop as much as people indicate:
http://www.watchfinder.co.uk/Bremont/Martin-Baker/...
So what I'll do next depends on what price I can get it for. I've asked the dealer about discount, and they are going to call me before Wednesday with an answer (the shop owner was away) although it was indicated a discount was not a problem, so if I can get the price to start with a £2K and not a £3K then potential result my aim is to get 22% so lets see....
I should also point out my initial draw to these watches is in fact 50% part the Jaguar E-type theme, and whether they had anything to do with Jaguar E-type 50 years ago is not really a major concern to me, there are plenty of brand of product that endorse or collaborate with other makers of other products or organisations and it doesn't devalue the desirability of the product to me at all that there might not be documented history going back 50 years to backup the theme or a particular collaboration, for me personally this watch will compliment my own E-type car perfectly indeed.
Bremont did supply some watches to Jaguar for the initial build of 6 lightweight heritage cars and these were given to the buyers as a gift with the cars, I presume this is what they are making reference to on the website and marketing? Jaguar clearly made a choice and worked with Bremont to market their brand on a watch and in my mind its a nice idea one Jaguar are clearly not exactly upset about. If this had been done by another watch maker than so be it, maybe I'd be looking at their brand as well now. so for me (a car guy, who owns an E-type) its a good thing, they look good, have good warranty, local dealer, and are being aimed and priced mid way in a large market of 'just ok' watches, and this may turn out to be another 'just ok' watch but for me to have a nice watch that's inspired by cars I like can only a good thing.
What I will say is some of the Bremont watches priced in excess of £6K (like some Ltd edition and I think the Boing one) and more specifically the Mk1 Jaguar one with 'their own movement' does not warrant £8448 and I made this clear to the dealer, and expressed as a customer if you were spending £6/8K you'd be looking at a totally different brands like Rolex, Panerai etc.
But this doesn't mean the ones priced £3495 to £4500 are way overpriced, and just because they have not been around for 100 years doesn't mean they are of poor quality, or have poor brand presence, there are far worse watches around the marketplace within this price point.
Thanks again for all of your views and feedback.
Andy
I suppose as the op I should add some (final comments) for me.
It was actually the tie in with (as some say) 'dodgy marketing' that had caught my attention regarding the jaguar models and I was less bothered about Bremont heritage but wanted to know more about how they compared to major better known brands and I suppose I was less bothered about where the movements came from, but unsure if paying list price was a given or if 20% discount was possible.
It's interesting to hear so many comments, seems a little bit of a shame that so much is negative and most if it around marketing and less on the quality.
The watches seem (to me) well made, and whilst I don't agree with some prices of some higher end models (a view I have on some rolex as well for that matter) these watches remain popular and are a growing brand in a large watch market, they are a welcome alternative to the 'usual' brands, and I don't think these tie in deals or marketing campaigns are a bad thing, and are doing their brand no harm, it's what caught my eye to start with so it clearly works! every brand has some form of tie in or duff marketing rubbish and sell their products via sport, heritage, or something why should bremont be any different.
I think we should accept they are doing well, are pretty well made (at certain price points) and some models might seem overpriced vs some more major brands, but it's each to their own.
I however have decided not to buy one and to save the funds I was going to buy a jaguar mk3 one with to put towards a rolex Gmt blue/black, although short supply of these (at list price) and (in my opinion) rolex playing games with supply and the current price rises makes me reluctant to purchase but I like the watch more than anything else right now (I know this is another topic!)
So now on the wait list for what could be a good 12 months until I get my hands on it :-(
All that said I'd still consider buying a jaguar mk3 bremont (used) or new at good discount (if they are not discontinued by time I save up!) and will keep an eye on used prices in the meantime, the jaguar mk1/2 don't seem to me worth the extra over the mk3 model but maybe I value the jaguar theme and looks of the watch more than the better movements of the higher end models!
Thanks for all feedback and comments both positive and negative.
It was actually the tie in with (as some say) 'dodgy marketing' that had caught my attention regarding the jaguar models and I was less bothered about Bremont heritage but wanted to know more about how they compared to major better known brands and I suppose I was less bothered about where the movements came from, but unsure if paying list price was a given or if 20% discount was possible.
It's interesting to hear so many comments, seems a little bit of a shame that so much is negative and most if it around marketing and less on the quality.
The watches seem (to me) well made, and whilst I don't agree with some prices of some higher end models (a view I have on some rolex as well for that matter) these watches remain popular and are a growing brand in a large watch market, they are a welcome alternative to the 'usual' brands, and I don't think these tie in deals or marketing campaigns are a bad thing, and are doing their brand no harm, it's what caught my eye to start with so it clearly works! every brand has some form of tie in or duff marketing rubbish and sell their products via sport, heritage, or something why should bremont be any different.
I think we should accept they are doing well, are pretty well made (at certain price points) and some models might seem overpriced vs some more major brands, but it's each to their own.
I however have decided not to buy one and to save the funds I was going to buy a jaguar mk3 one with to put towards a rolex Gmt blue/black, although short supply of these (at list price) and (in my opinion) rolex playing games with supply and the current price rises makes me reluctant to purchase but I like the watch more than anything else right now (I know this is another topic!)
So now on the wait list for what could be a good 12 months until I get my hands on it :-(
All that said I'd still consider buying a jaguar mk3 bremont (used) or new at good discount (if they are not discontinued by time I save up!) and will keep an eye on used prices in the meantime, the jaguar mk1/2 don't seem to me worth the extra over the mk3 model but maybe I value the jaguar theme and looks of the watch more than the better movements of the higher end models!
Thanks for all feedback and comments both positive and negative.
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