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They really have moved on, the watch is a very new design.
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I had a look at a couple of the sites out of interest. I find it hard to believe hat fakes are sold from a French company for example. Also when you add the watch to basket, there is a warning that Visa won’t let you buy from them !
Anyone know of a reputable fake seller, not one of these fake fakers ?
A murky world
Anyone know of a reputable fake seller, not one of these fake fakers ?
A murky world
stinkyspanner said:
I'm the kind of person that might buy a fake watch and this is why:
I'm not particularly into watches, I haven't owned or worn a watch for 20 years or more-if I want to know the time I look at my phone.
However I saw an advert for an Omega which I thought looked nice, but would I spend £5k on one? Er, no but I would buy a fake for £70 if it told the time and didn't fall apart. Who cares if the movement isn't quite right? Certainly not me..
But it isn’t an Omega, why not buy one that looks like it?I'm not particularly into watches, I haven't owned or worn a watch for 20 years or more-if I want to know the time I look at my phone.
However I saw an advert for an Omega which I thought looked nice, but would I spend £5k on one? Er, no but I would buy a fake for £70 if it told the time and didn't fall apart. Who cares if the movement isn't quite right? Certainly not me..
I saw a nice Hublot (really?!) and decided to buy a similar version for under £200 to see if I got on with it prior to spending the Hublot amount, I didn’t.
FWIW said:
Tomo1971 said:
Maybe people who pay for a Genuine Rolex are erm....odd...... (IMO) ;-)
It’s an interesting question. I have a selection of fakes, cost on average around £70 each I guess. They look OK but they’re a bit crap. So I’ve lost about £400 on fakes.
A few years ago I spent an extravagant £6.5k on a Rolex...very odd, as you say.
Which purchase would you say was the least ‘odd’, and why?
Edited by FWIW on Sunday 26th January 15:27
I buy a Rolex because I like the watch, I like the history of the watch and the history of the brand and the design and the mechanical nature of the watch and the history of the movement. it makes me feel good wearing it. A fake only really meets the looks good requirement and maybe the mechanical aspect.
It would make me feel bad wearing a fake though, so I simply wouldn’t enjoy the experience.
If you want to wear a Rolex just to show off or just because you like the look of the watch then I suppose a fake meets both requirements for a fraction of the price.
To me though, arguing why it’s ok to wear fakes is like saying why tell the truth or why have manners or why treat people like you want to be treated, it just seems wrong to me in my world view and dishonest somehow. Like the person wearing the fake is being false.
Obviously we’re all different though.
Stories like this are why I like the Rolex brand.
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/on-the-block-rol...
Similarly with the story of the omega speedmaster and the moon connection
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/understanding-th...
Or the history and links between Rolex GMTs and aviation
https://www.qpmagazine.com/long-reads/a27387734/ro...
And so on
Fakes don’t really give me that sense of connection that you get from iconic watches with great history at all.
Plus also I buy a watch to leave for my kids so fakes aren’t going to be that great as a connection between generations and loved ones. Similarly I’ve got some lovely watches from my dad, would I cherish a fake submariner as much? Possibly if he wore it but it’s not really the same. To think a loved one worked hard and bought a great watch and cherished it and passed it on to a loved one to enjoy is part of the attraction of watches. A fake that someone bought to con people isn’t going to ever have that same appeal.
Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 27th January 23:16
FWIW said:
Haha! It’s a brilliantly emotive subject and I don’t necessarily disagree with you.
But most of the above is marketing b
ks, product placement, or extremely tenuous links to interesting events.
How much do Rolex spend on marketing? fking stloads. And some. Fair play to them, but surely we see should it for what it is.
Who’s the mug? Well, I guess it depends on the criteria, but I don’t think there’s any need to get all sanctimonious about It (as ‘gen’ buyers tend to). At least on a face value level (organised crime connections are another matter).
Anyway, you get the gist.
What of the above is marketing bBut most of the above is marketing b
ks, product placement, or extremely tenuous links to interesting events. How much do Rolex spend on marketing? f
king stloads. And some. Fair play to them, but surely we see should it for what it is. Who’s the mug? Well, I guess it depends on the criteria, but I don’t think there’s any need to get all sanctimonious about It (as ‘gen’ buyers tend to). At least on a face value level (organised crime connections are another matter).
Anyway, you get the gist.
ks or product placement? Many of these iconic watches have a proud history because they were chosen and selected by professionals and organisations because of their quality or the features or complications etc. As I said, people have many different reasons to be attracted to watches. The history of a model or brand isn’t all “marketing b
ks”I like pilots’ watches and ones linked to aerospace because it’s my job and I’m interested in it. A watch like a Rolex gmt is inextricably linked to aviation. Some of these companies like Breitling made instruments for aircraft and watches issued to pilots at various points in time, I don’t particularly like watches with a fake history or worse a fake watch. That to me is partly why a fake is not something I want to wear.
Others obviously have no interest whatsoever in the history of a brand or iconic model of watch, the design and design language and how it’s all evolved and the engineering and the movement etc, we’re all different.
Plus also, if everyone bought fakes instead of the genuine products, nobody would be making nice watches anymore.
I’m not going to get upset if someone wears a fake copy of a watch I own or am wearing, it doesn’t affect my enjoyment of it as I (hopefully) don’t see it as a status symbol, but let’s be honest, the main reason for wearing a fake, is for people trying to show off and to pretend they have earned something that shows their wealth. It’s not only that they’re materialistic and victims of consumerism, it’s that they’re wanting to look well off but are also lying about how well off they are.
You can’t be surprised though that fake watches get a negative reception on a watch forum.
BOR said:
What if no one else ever sees it?
If you love the style and design of a Rol... sorry, bad example, the style and design of a Blancpain and just want a 3D example of the design to look at occasionally ?
If you never wear it outside your home, no one else will ever be impressed by it.
Like buying a full scale model of something as an ornament? If you love the style and design of a Rol... sorry, bad example, the style and design of a Blancpain and just want a 3D example of the design to look at occasionally ?
If you never wear it outside your home, no one else will ever be impressed by it.
Tbh I doubt many people buy fake watches just because they liked the design and want to appreciate it at home.
NDA said:
I own a fake/counterfeit Patek. I bought it because I could not try on the real thing and I was considering buying one. I didn't leave the house wearing it and did end up buying a real one.
The fake is in a drawer somewhere - I genuinely don't know where.
What if you’ve muddled them up? The fake is in a drawer somewhere - I genuinely don't know where.
stinkyspanner said:
I'm the kind of person that might buy a fake watch and this is why:
I'm not particularly into watches, I haven't owned or worn a watch for 20 years or more-if I want to know the time I look at my phone.
However I saw an advert for an Omega which I thought looked nice, but would I spend £5k on one? Er, no but I would buy a fake for £70 if it told the time and didn't fall apart. Who cares if the movement isn't quite right? Certainly not me..
I'm not particularly into watches, I haven't owned or worn a watch for 20 years or more-if I want to know the time I look at my phone.
However I saw an advert for an Omega which I thought looked nice, but would I spend £5k on one? Er, no but I would buy a fake for £70 if it told the time and didn't fall apart. Who cares if the movement isn't quite right? Certainly not me..
£30 off a market on Koh Samui. Even had a glide lock strap, though a weld broke on that after 6 months. Locking crown doesn't lock anymore, but I'm hardly going diving with this. Seller assured me it was a Japanese movement, but obviously it wasn't. Tells the time.
Doofus said:
Presenting it as fact, however...
Anyway this is one way they harvest data, if I spent some time I could find more examples.
It is like those people that post stuff over semantics, instead of the actual issues, i.e fake watches fund things pretty unsavoury,buying them you are part of the problem.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/201...
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