Apache helicopter spotted over Perth ?

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Ok. I am by no means a helicopter expert but could have sworn i saw the above mentioned helicopter over Perth last week about lunchtime? Is there a base up this way ? Assuming it wasn’t from Errol “international “ aerodrome lol.

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So I probably didn’t imagine it ? Lol. Think it would have been last Thursday or Friday. Thought at first it was the air ambulance from Errol but as it flew over the North Inch park could see it looked like a Apache.

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Scaleybrat said:

I could hear Apache activity but couldn’t see them from my viewpoint on Kinnoull Hill. BTW, you are confusing Errol with Scone, from where the Air Ambulance operates.

Isn’t the airport called or was called Errol though ?

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Meeten-5dulx said:

Gutted as it would have been impressive to see.

They’re really not.

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Still slower than a Chinook.

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loskie said:

A rally car is slower than an F1 car but I know which takes more skill to drive and is better to watch.
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It’s all relative.
Aspects of Chinny ops make Apache pilots’ toes curl, and vice versa.
As a package, one Chinny and an Apache pair is pretty much unbeatable.
Ask MERT.
Course the main thing is to maintain a sense of humour, manifesting itself as rivalry, at all times.

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ianrb said:

No, Errol is in the Carse of Gowrie, right by the Tay. Scone airfield, which also seems to be called Perth Airport, is just north of the A94 between Scone and Balbeggie.

Ah i see now !
I drive past scone airfield everyday too lol. Too busy thinking about the food at touchdown cafe to look at the name I guess !

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Evanivitch said:

But can an Apache carry troops? (Internally...) And can a Chinook fire missiles!?

No. But a Wildcat can...

I’ve heard all the troops on a Wildcat think it’s rubbish though?
Both of them.

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Evanivitch said:

Crossflow Kid said:

Evanivitch said:

But can an Apache carry troops? (Internally...) And can a Chinook fire missiles!?

No. But a Wildcat can...

I’ve heard all the troops on a Wildcat think it’s rubbish though?
Both of them.

Yeah, I've not heard a good word from anyone in green. I think that's a bit of an early reliability issue and a lack of proper systems integration when it first went to service.

I think it’s even simpler.
What use is a Wildcat with a whopping four passengers, and a variety of fairly role-specific munitions (not all at once) when balanced against a Chinny that can stretch to triple figures for trooping if needed, plus an underslung load or three, accompanied by a pair of Apache with dozens of Hellfire, lots of rockety things and several billion rounds of 50-cal?

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I’d say the “burden” of CH47 or AH64 is marginal. Both of those can be stripped and inside in a C17 in under 24hrs, just like Wildcat. Post 9-11 the first U.K. Chinooks were flying in-theatre in a couple of days.
Or on a flat topped war canoe.
The benefits of a dedicated medium lift trooping asset in the company of a dedicated multi-weapons platform are exponential compared to a smaller platform that claims to do both.
Wildcat is fine for carrying small torpedoes around, strafing a RIB full of Somalis or cross-decking the mail.
Anything else, the answer’s a Chinook and two Apache.

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Evanivitch said:

Crossflow Kid said:

I’d say the “burden” of CH47 or AH64 is marginal. Both of those can be stripped and inside in a C17 in under 24hrs, just like Wildcat. Post 9-11 the first U.K. Chinooks were flying in-theatre in a couple of days.
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We'll have to agree to disagree on that point. Can't agree that the level of strip is too similar or that flying to different airframes is as efficient as sending a single type.

Edited by Evanivitch on Wednesday 14th October 14:08

That all depends on how you define efficient.
A pair of Wildcats would take ten trips to complete just one Chinny trooping serial so whilst they might deploy faster they’ll achieve less once they’re there.