Would you fly on a 737 Max?

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Piginapoke

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Monday 2nd November 2020
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If Boeing succeeds in certifying the 737 Max to resume flying, would you be happy to fly on one?

The company has 500 airframes made and 3000 on order; it seems to be assuming that all will be fine once US regulators give the green light. I'm not so sure I would fly on it though- any views?

Edited by Piginapoke on Monday 2nd November 07:42

Piginapoke

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Dr Jekyll said:
I'd be happy to fly on it. Even without the fix, the problem would only occur in a particular set of circumstances which everyone remotely involved now knows about.
I think you might be in the minority with that! hehe

Piginapoke

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Monday 2nd November 2020
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Going back a while, the DC10 originally had a more fundamental problem but that went on to have a long and successful career, but I think that social media opinion and wider question marks over Boeing's conduct will likely doom the Max- I'd certainly look to fly an A320/321and avoid the Max.

Piginapoke

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Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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Well RyanAir is planning to have 30 Max’s (?) in service by summer, so it’s make your mind up time soon,

Piginapoke

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Wednesday 11th November 2020
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Eric Mc said:
It's an amazing evolution. Notice how they even had a problem with very original JT8D installation. The 1st picture shows the short nacelle fitted to the very first Series 100 and 200 aircraft. Within months of entering service (in 1968), early users of these 737s found they had problems with the thrust reversers. All later 200s had a longer rear fairing and the early aircraft were retro-fitted quite quickly.

There is a lovely photo of Aer Lingus's first ever 737-248 (EI-ASA) taking off on its first flight at Seattle which features the elongated nacelles.
Also visible are the auxiliary blow-in doors which were a feature of early versions of the JT8D. They weren't needed on later 200s.
The picture dates from 1969.

That’s a lovely picture. I take it’s that’s the delivery flight?


Edited by Piginapoke on Wednesday 11th November 18:39

Piginapoke

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Saturday 21st November 2020
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Now certified for US operations.

Piginapoke

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Friday 4th December 2020
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craigjm said:
Ryanair have just ordered a bunch more

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55177846
I hope they got a good deal tongue out

Piginapoke

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Sunday 31st January 2021
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havoc said:
Lots of stupid fking comments on that link blaming the accountants ("bean counters") for this.

No - a bunch of greedy sociopathic Execs caused this. They were put there / got there because of the way the Stock Market (esp. the US stock market) works - rewarding short-term results over long-term growth, rewarding profits and image over people and integrity...and the behaviours that encourages within firms.

...and in this instance, the egotistical CEO thought his company "too big to fail"...and it looks like he may be right.

Capitalistic democracy is broken - it's heading towards pure capitalism (led by the US and China), which will not end well for the 99% of people not at the top of the tree...



/rant
Comrades rise up against the State!

On a serious note, the MAX’s physical flaws being addressed through software are alarming.



Piginapoke

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Flew on a Ryanair Max to Malta, and guess we’ll fly home on one too. Not a single reference to Max anywhere, the engines (so far forward!) and wingtips are a giveaway though,

Piginapoke

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Sunday 7th January
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Blancoleiro is all you need for this kind of thing- active 777 Pilot and knows his stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9EvHpf8jZg