Gourmet Ice Cream
Discussion
I can't believe I haven't posted this sooner, but I have this week taken delivery of my first batch of proper ice-cream direct from New Forest who in my opinion are THE Ice Cream specialists. I am wondering if I am on my own having contacted a retailer and bulk ordering product for greedy private consumption?
I have always been a fan of Ice Cream and over the years it has become apparent how basic and inferior the quality of supermarket 2 litre tubs are. I started out with supermarket tubs, then learnt about the better options such as Waitrose tubs ( still rate these actually ) and moved onto to the Haagen Daz variants. I have never been a fan of Ben and Jerrys or others, but do like Haagen Daz. As time went on and various family trips took us to the south of the country I came across the New Forest range which I believe are national suppliers but do tend to dominate the south.
I have tried various scoop ice creams out and about which always impress with the quality and flavour combos, and at the same time frustrate as the quality is so good that you simply cannot go out and buy tubs of it at retail outlets. As it is trade only you also can't just buy tubs from the places that sell the scoops. After a trip to the Isle of Wight a few years ago ( and a few more since ) New Forest really stood out to me as a serious product, flavors to die for and unparalleled taste. In Surrey we get a fair bit of Marshfield Ice Cream which is priced the same but seems to be missing the flavor range and seems a little too generic. Willow Farm is another but limited range and I must say I have not tried any.
The ultimate for my greedy guts was to have a stash of this New Forest product in the freezer so I can occasionally gorge on a large bowl full without messing about paying £3 for a small scoop only and eating it on the street. So I made contact with them and found out that for a minimum order of £50 they could indeed deliver to my house on the 2 days a week they visit my area. Deal done. Menu perused and I chose to buy 4 tubs, each one 4 litre at roughly £15 per tub. This is trade price and seeing how much ice-cream I have in my freezer for £60 I think it is a good deal personally (if your willing to pay for quality and will appreciate it that is).
The flavors are all here: https://www.newforesticecream.com/our-products/sco...
So I opted for Honeycomb Swirl ( Chocolate and Honeycomb flavor with pieces of gooey honeycombe within ), Banoffee, Strawberry and Chocoloate Brownie & White Chocolate. I am generally having a bowl with 2 flavors combined, and these flavors work fairly well with each other. I am already thinking about my next batch and want to try Jaffa Cake, Chocolate Orange and Millionaires Shortcake. I will see how it goes though as this lot will last me a while.
I am really pleased with what I have so far, and I can't fault the product or my dealings with New Forest. If anyone wants some serious Ice-Cream I highly recommend. Goes down well after a Swaadish curry lol - but makes for a blooming expensive evening of food!
I have always been a fan of Ice Cream and over the years it has become apparent how basic and inferior the quality of supermarket 2 litre tubs are. I started out with supermarket tubs, then learnt about the better options such as Waitrose tubs ( still rate these actually ) and moved onto to the Haagen Daz variants. I have never been a fan of Ben and Jerrys or others, but do like Haagen Daz. As time went on and various family trips took us to the south of the country I came across the New Forest range which I believe are national suppliers but do tend to dominate the south.
I have tried various scoop ice creams out and about which always impress with the quality and flavour combos, and at the same time frustrate as the quality is so good that you simply cannot go out and buy tubs of it at retail outlets. As it is trade only you also can't just buy tubs from the places that sell the scoops. After a trip to the Isle of Wight a few years ago ( and a few more since ) New Forest really stood out to me as a serious product, flavors to die for and unparalleled taste. In Surrey we get a fair bit of Marshfield Ice Cream which is priced the same but seems to be missing the flavor range and seems a little too generic. Willow Farm is another but limited range and I must say I have not tried any.
The ultimate for my greedy guts was to have a stash of this New Forest product in the freezer so I can occasionally gorge on a large bowl full without messing about paying £3 for a small scoop only and eating it on the street. So I made contact with them and found out that for a minimum order of £50 they could indeed deliver to my house on the 2 days a week they visit my area. Deal done. Menu perused and I chose to buy 4 tubs, each one 4 litre at roughly £15 per tub. This is trade price and seeing how much ice-cream I have in my freezer for £60 I think it is a good deal personally (if your willing to pay for quality and will appreciate it that is).
The flavors are all here: https://www.newforesticecream.com/our-products/sco...
So I opted for Honeycomb Swirl ( Chocolate and Honeycomb flavor with pieces of gooey honeycombe within ), Banoffee, Strawberry and Chocoloate Brownie & White Chocolate. I am generally having a bowl with 2 flavors combined, and these flavors work fairly well with each other. I am already thinking about my next batch and want to try Jaffa Cake, Chocolate Orange and Millionaires Shortcake. I will see how it goes though as this lot will last me a while.
I am really pleased with what I have so far, and I can't fault the product or my dealings with New Forest. If anyone wants some serious Ice-Cream I highly recommend. Goes down well after a Swaadish curry lol - but makes for a blooming expensive evening of food!
I will have to take some pics of my 4L tubs as both the method of storage and ingredients are all on the lid - they should freeze no problem, I think it says store below 18 degrees but will check. I have had mine now 4 days and no sign of any change in condition. I have been having a small bowl most days, scoops well with a scoop and perfect texture.
What I love most is the fact that ice cream is not gloopy / synthetic which you CAN detect with Haagen D, it is fluffy and fresh, clean, but with depth of flavour. It is both light in that it melts on the tongue and requires minimal effort to consume, but not too light that you don't feel full or feel like you haven't eaten much.
I have never tried Mackies. The supermarket stuff seems to have been going downhill for years, also I note a lack of flavour choice. Waitrose are very good, however Tesco's have some wacky flavors but it is all synthetic textured gloop. Nothing like a proper ice cream. I love a whippy but don't count that as ice-cream, I see that as it's own entity. What I absolutely hate is Carte Dor - can't bare it - it is SO overpriced and is just a rubbery yoghurt type product in a small oval tub. Honestly, it's like fraud.
I will remove the lids on my current tubs and take some pics, along with the ingredients and see what you think, but I am not back home till tmrw eve so you'll have to wait!
What I love most is the fact that ice cream is not gloopy / synthetic which you CAN detect with Haagen D, it is fluffy and fresh, clean, but with depth of flavour. It is both light in that it melts on the tongue and requires minimal effort to consume, but not too light that you don't feel full or feel like you haven't eaten much.
I have never tried Mackies. The supermarket stuff seems to have been going downhill for years, also I note a lack of flavour choice. Waitrose are very good, however Tesco's have some wacky flavors but it is all synthetic textured gloop. Nothing like a proper ice cream. I love a whippy but don't count that as ice-cream, I see that as it's own entity. What I absolutely hate is Carte Dor - can't bare it - it is SO overpriced and is just a rubbery yoghurt type product in a small oval tub. Honestly, it's like fraud.
I will remove the lids on my current tubs and take some pics, along with the ingredients and see what you think, but I am not back home till tmrw eve so you'll have to wait!
I am planning on getting the Blackberry on next bulk order. However you can buy small tubs of them either direct or at one of their outlets.
The Rhubarb must be awesome but it's the ginger element I am unsure of. Personally I would want Rhubarb on its own, or maybe with some zing such as lemon / lime to cut it slightly. You can also get these in small pots so may try and source them both to try from a farm shop.
The Rhubarb must be awesome but it's the ginger element I am unsure of. Personally I would want Rhubarb on its own, or maybe with some zing such as lemon / lime to cut it slightly. You can also get these in small pots so may try and source them both to try from a farm shop.
MrJuice said:
Are you saying you bought nearly 20litres of ice cream for £60? That is silly cheap
I could fit that much in my freezer but will bear this in mind for when I have a bigger freezer next year
Yes, 16 litres for around 60 delivered but thats not including tax. Delivery is free, you just need a minimum spend to get space on the van. They have set days for set areas so do bulk drop offs.I could fit that much in my freezer but will bear this in mind for when I have a bigger freezer next year
It works out I think around around £8 for a supermarket sized 2L tub. Can't see how that is silly cheap at all but yeah, ok if you say so. I have yet to see a tub of ice cream at that price or more anywhere else yet.
Miocene said:
I'd thoroughly recommend Purbeck ice cream too, but I admit at what looks twice the price delivered (if you're local anyway) of the New Forest option, it's a tough ask.
https://www.purbeckicecream.co.uk
They used to do a stilton / blue cheese (can't exactly remember) ice cream which was pretty interesting!
Yes, family live in Dorset so we are there all the time. I have def had some but not recently and would be interested to compare. Prices look a little worrying though, £16 for a 2 litre tub...https://www.purbeckicecream.co.uk
They used to do a stilton / blue cheese (can't exactly remember) ice cream which was pretty interesting!
Dangler said:
https://www.gallones.co.uk/ best ice cream round our way
Looks epic but as with all of them only delivery locally. Ice cream is a real niche market obviously.
So I am happy to step down from my armchair and be educated on this post. Laid bare for all to see.
I have pictured the ingredients, the tubs and the sort of simple bowl I enjoy. Open to comments around the make up of the product or any inside knowledge. All I know is it is awesome, and I will be buying more.
I have been thinking about why I like New Forest so much compared to others, and one word that I keep coming back to is "cleanliness". By that I mean, a texture that is smooth, tasteful and without any after taste at all. There is no creamy / synthetic after taste - it's not trying too hard, it is just honest and clean and amazing in flavor. I am pretty sure I have tried Purbeck and no doubt its epic, but I can't recall when I last tried and can't do a back to back comparison. I do wonder about density though - New Forest is not dense, and some of the top ice creams are almost too "creamy" and very dense. Personally I like the iced ruffle / lightness if that makes sense. Very hard to verbalize.
These ice creams need no gimmicks - ordinarily I love a flake or 2 maybe 3 or 4 flakes crumbled in a seperae bowl and added to taste. Or sprinkles, and they would probably work well with these. But to me, I bought these to savor the flavor alone, the texture and overall experience of quality. I don't wish to interfere with it - a sign of quality?
I have pictured the ingredients, the tubs and the sort of simple bowl I enjoy. Open to comments around the make up of the product or any inside knowledge. All I know is it is awesome, and I will be buying more.
I have been thinking about why I like New Forest so much compared to others, and one word that I keep coming back to is "cleanliness". By that I mean, a texture that is smooth, tasteful and without any after taste at all. There is no creamy / synthetic after taste - it's not trying too hard, it is just honest and clean and amazing in flavor. I am pretty sure I have tried Purbeck and no doubt its epic, but I can't recall when I last tried and can't do a back to back comparison. I do wonder about density though - New Forest is not dense, and some of the top ice creams are almost too "creamy" and very dense. Personally I like the iced ruffle / lightness if that makes sense. Very hard to verbalize.
These ice creams need no gimmicks - ordinarily I love a flake or 2 maybe 3 or 4 flakes crumbled in a seperae bowl and added to taste. Or sprinkles, and they would probably work well with these. But to me, I bought these to savor the flavor alone, the texture and overall experience of quality. I don't wish to interfere with it - a sign of quality?
RobbieTheTruth said:
In terms of ingredients, it surely would be considered gourmet? Their vanilla only contains cream (39%), sugar, milk, egg yolk and vanilla and is 39% cream.
The New Forrest one in comparison is whole milk, cream (17%), sugar, skimmed milk powder, dextrose, Emulsifier: Mono- and Di-Glycerides of Fatty Acids, Stabilisers: Sodium Alginate, Guar Gum, Natural Flavouring.
I'm not making a case for Haagen Dasz to be amazing, but it's a pretty premium product?
In the mouth - Haagen washes and coats it, and you cant then get away from the cream.The New Forrest one in comparison is whole milk, cream (17%), sugar, skimmed milk powder, dextrose, Emulsifier: Mono- and Di-Glycerides of Fatty Acids, Stabilisers: Sodium Alginate, Guar Gum, Natural Flavouring.
I'm not making a case for Haagen Dasz to be amazing, but it's a pretty premium product?
New Forest leaves you with a clean palette after every mouthful. And it is a better texture. No rubbery density - clean and airy.
Audis5b9 said:
Have you tried the banoffee yet?
Its my favorite of theirs... need to go and restock!
The banofee is in our freezer - its only available in "continental" - which is "just" semi skimmed milk.Its my favorite of theirs... need to go and restock!
But its sublime.
The other 3 flavors are full dairy - full fat milk and cream.
Yeah we are sitting pretty here. Epic ice cream, on tap. Working out the next order.
RobbieTheTruth said:
Haagen Dasz vanilla contains cream (39%), sugar, milk, egg yolk and vanilla.
It's 39% cream and as a whole is 17% fat.
It's clearly premium, if not super premium?.
It might be all of that, but I bought a tub of HG before I had my New Forest delivery and I haven't gone near it. Its still sealed.It's 39% cream and as a whole is 17% fat.
It's clearly premium, if not super premium?.
I was also at Bocketts Farm where they serve Marshfield Ice Cream in abundance this week. Its good ice cream but having had that on the back of this, no, its not the same. No depth of flavor and as always, too creamy. I want ICE, and flavor, and tongue ruffle. Not marketing and cream.
Well I have just ordered my third batch which arrives on Monday. Salted Caramel, Choc Chip Cookie Dough, Malted Milk + Choc Chip, Strawberry ( first repeat flavour ).
Previous flavours we have consumed:
White Choc Chip and Brownie = One of our faves, amazingly light yet chocolatey, could eat this all day
Honeycomb Swirl = Very good, but quite strong. Easily overpowers other flavours if eaten in combo. One of the kids faves
Bannoffee = Wonderfully fresh but dominating flavours, again wasn't easy to mix with other flavours
Strawberry = Fantastic taste, subtle and fresh, and always cuts well when mixed with other flavours
Then we had
Millionaires Shortcake = Brilliant, tasty, pleasing and not over powering. More subtle than I expected, biscuity flavour ice-cream to die for.
Raspberry Ripple Meringue = Kids favourite, very nice but not as much raspberry flavour as I expected. More meringuey / eton messy.
Chocolate Orange = Great flavour but dense and behaves differently to lighter ice creams. Hard to combine so really needs eating solo
Jaffa Cake = Utterly unbelievable flavour and texture, hands down the best ice-cream experience I have ever had.
The next load listed at the top arrive Monday, and that wil be pretty much all the flavours we wanted to try dealt with. Owing to the sizes of the tubs we are limited with combinations we can get, so 2 x long Napoli trays and 2 x 4L tubs is the only combo really. There may be a further order after this where we try the final 4 flavours we want to, probably do Lotus Biscoff, Toffee Crunch, Vanilla and something else.
Previous flavours we have consumed:
White Choc Chip and Brownie = One of our faves, amazingly light yet chocolatey, could eat this all day
Honeycomb Swirl = Very good, but quite strong. Easily overpowers other flavours if eaten in combo. One of the kids faves
Bannoffee = Wonderfully fresh but dominating flavours, again wasn't easy to mix with other flavours
Strawberry = Fantastic taste, subtle and fresh, and always cuts well when mixed with other flavours
Then we had
Millionaires Shortcake = Brilliant, tasty, pleasing and not over powering. More subtle than I expected, biscuity flavour ice-cream to die for.
Raspberry Ripple Meringue = Kids favourite, very nice but not as much raspberry flavour as I expected. More meringuey / eton messy.
Chocolate Orange = Great flavour but dense and behaves differently to lighter ice creams. Hard to combine so really needs eating solo
Jaffa Cake = Utterly unbelievable flavour and texture, hands down the best ice-cream experience I have ever had.
The next load listed at the top arrive Monday, and that wil be pretty much all the flavours we wanted to try dealt with. Owing to the sizes of the tubs we are limited with combinations we can get, so 2 x long Napoli trays and 2 x 4L tubs is the only combo really. There may be a further order after this where we try the final 4 flavours we want to, probably do Lotus Biscoff, Toffee Crunch, Vanilla and something else.
We were supposed to get some blackberry clotted but currently out of stock. They make 1000 litres at a time. I asked them to make a Black Forest flavour but they said they would need the demand to make 1000 litres for it to be worth their while.
They deliver to set places in the country per day, so my area is served Mon and Thurs. I call up and order / pay over the phone, and it then arrives on your selected day. Only need 24 hrs notice and cleared payment. They also call you on the day before arriving but yes you need to be there as it is handed over from the refrigerated truck.
They deliver to set places in the country per day, so my area is served Mon and Thurs. I call up and order / pay over the phone, and it then arrives on your selected day. Only need 24 hrs notice and cleared payment. They also call you on the day before arriving but yes you need to be there as it is handed over from the refrigerated truck.
They are excellent, but I have a theory and I don't know how right or wrong I am.
Having now had around 40 litres of the stuff, I think there is some sort of concoction of secret ingredient they put in all their ice-creams. Just some sort of blend of something that gives each of their flavours a distinction or a trademark taste. I can't put my finger on it but its like a sugary vanilla type taste and bizarrely the most detectable this seems to be is via the sense of smell. Regularly, well after demolishing a bowl, I pick up the "new forest" scent on my fingers and it stays there until I wash my hands. Its quite a specific scent, and it has been present throughout my months of over indulgence.
I wonder whether it is like a dollop of syrup they add to the mixture containing a set of pre-determined ingredients, maybe a blend of rose water, sugar, vanilla pod and orange or something, plucking flavours out the air to make my point.
Could be rubbish though. But, there is definitely distinguishable sugary scent that lingers on my hands post gobble.
Having now had around 40 litres of the stuff, I think there is some sort of concoction of secret ingredient they put in all their ice-creams. Just some sort of blend of something that gives each of their flavours a distinction or a trademark taste. I can't put my finger on it but its like a sugary vanilla type taste and bizarrely the most detectable this seems to be is via the sense of smell. Regularly, well after demolishing a bowl, I pick up the "new forest" scent on my fingers and it stays there until I wash my hands. Its quite a specific scent, and it has been present throughout my months of over indulgence.
I wonder whether it is like a dollop of syrup they add to the mixture containing a set of pre-determined ingredients, maybe a blend of rose water, sugar, vanilla pod and orange or something, plucking flavours out the air to make my point.
Could be rubbish though. But, there is definitely distinguishable sugary scent that lingers on my hands post gobble.
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