best kit to lift front end

best kit to lift front end

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ROWDYRENAULT

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Monday 13th August 2018
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Anyone found a really good, simple kit to lift the front end for bumps? Lee

ROWDYRENAULT

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Saturday 18th August 2018
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Ive been speaking with the folks at Ram pro lift (website above) all week. They are friendly and helpful and it looks like a quality kit. but its $1868 and this airlift kit is a bit less. The one thing I question about the airlift kit is where to install the air bottle? I've already built a foam model of the hydraulic pump for the Ram kit and it will fit in the nose below the master cylinders without much issue. I think if I can settle that one issue that the airlift kit has the advantage of not needing new springs which is $200 in its self, plus the part that goes on the spring of the air kit will be lighter meaning less unsprung weight. So far I have seen the exact dimensions of the tank but in the pics it looks to be fairly large. Any thoughts? Lee

ROWDYRENAULT

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Saturday 18th August 2018
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XRTIM: Thanks for posting the size of the tank that will allow me to make a foam model and evaluating the best place possible to mount it. Lee

ROWDYRENAULT

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Saturday 18th August 2018
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The tank provided has 630 cu inches and appears to be problematic to the space offered in a Utima. I think building a tank to fit in a given space in the Ultima might be a better solution. Lee

ROWDYRENAULT

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Tuesday 21st August 2018
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O.K. This is where I admit that I had something wrong. I assumed that with the Stance system that the cup would collapse to something like a 1/2 inch I was wrong. The Stance system has the same draw back as the hyd. system it remains at two inches tall when not extended. This means that either system will require new shorter springs. At this point my inclination is to go with the much more expensive Ram Pro Lift system because fitting a tank with enough volume is going to be a bh, the pump on the hyd. system is very high quality actually intended for the marine environment. Still have not committed and I am always willing to listen to other ideas. As I go towards the finish on my second GTR I consider this to be a real QUALITY OF EXPERINCE ISSUE. I enjoyed my first GTR every time I got it out, but I must admit there where times I really got concerned about scrapping the nose or I knew there was an issue where I was headed and took something else to avoid the problem when I really wanted to drive the GTR. Thoughts? Lee


ROWDYRENAULT

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Thursday 23rd August 2018
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Well I was wrong again, seems to be a habit on this subject. The height of the system collapsed is .787 inches or 22 mm. so that should not be a difficult issue. What may be an issue is the Stance System requires A INSIDE DIAMETER OF THE SPRING OF 61MM OR 2.4 inches. I do not have access to my car today and leave on travel tomorrow for a bit. does anyone know if the inside diameter of the spring is larger than 61mm? Lee

ROWDYRENAULT

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Wednesday 5th September 2018
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I think unless its a new build and you bury the tank in the side pods somewhere, the size of that tank will be problematic. The concept of the pump inside the tank is interesting. I also thought about some part of the frame as a reservoir but you would be introducing a huge amount of water into your frame. On a new build I think a 2 or 3 inch tube down the length of the car in the side pod and below the baggage pods would work well. lee

ROWDYRENAULT

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Saturday 15th September 2018
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I really think a factory lift kit will be a value added to the car. Can you give any details about the kit yet? Air vs Hydraulic ect. If I have not finished my new GTR by your availability date sign me up, but it will be close. Lee

ROWDYRENAULT

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Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Had not thought about opening the front but score another point for using a lift kit on the front. Thanks for the insight. Lee

ROWDYRENAULT

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Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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I decided to go with the ram pro lift. I would have waited for the factory but im ready to button up the wiring now. Took delivery on the unit today. First good news is that on a left hand drive car, the pump will fit to the right of the battery on the bottom shelf and the ports and adjusting screws will be in a serviceable position. More to follow. Lee

ROWDYRENAULT

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Thursday 11th October 2018
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some more input: The Ram Pro lift will need to be modified the inside of the piece that rides on the spring does not fit by a very small amount. You could turn it on a lathe and be done in 5 minutes. My option is I am going to build a complete replacement piece for this collar and incorporate both the collar for the lift kit and the collar that captures the top of the shock in one piece. A little more work but it will be an elegant solution.
In my car the reservoir for the brakes is already installed . This makes finding room for the lift kit master a bit of a pain but doable. A better answer on a new build would be to shift the brake master reservoir over a bit and leave room for the lift kit reservoir. Pictures to follow. Lee