Star Wars eps. 1-3 - a change of view
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ok, I have to admit I wasn't the biggest fan of eps 1-3 but on repeated viewing - SWMBO wanted to see them (lord of the rings and now Star Wars...result) I can see how things fit together a little more subtley than on first viewing.
so for example at the end of ep 3, yoda says to obi wan I have contacted QGJ and I want you to train to contact him....links nicely to obi wan saying to Darth "if you strike me down I'll become more powerful..." etc etc and then he is able to "speak" to Luke and Yoda on Degobah....
episode three of 1-3 stands up to repeated viewing more than the others I reckon..although they are complicated films....
I just think seeing them again and kinda "explaining" what is going on to someone who "has never seen star wars!" opens up a few new avenues within the story...
anyone else find this?
so for example at the end of ep 3, yoda says to obi wan I have contacted QGJ and I want you to train to contact him....links nicely to obi wan saying to Darth "if you strike me down I'll become more powerful..." etc etc and then he is able to "speak" to Luke and Yoda on Degobah....
episode three of 1-3 stands up to repeated viewing more than the others I reckon..although they are complicated films....
I just think seeing them again and kinda "explaining" what is going on to someone who "has never seen star wars!" opens up a few new avenues within the story...
anyone else find this?
Edited by Nom de ploom on Tuesday 17th January 13:30
Crossflow Kid said:
Nom de ploom said:
episode three of 1-3 stands up to repeated viewing more than the others I reckon.
Get your stuff, and get out. Just go.you can;t polish a turd I know but jeez...anyone would have thought I'd farted in your kitbag....
I think 1 and 2 are pretty mediocre films intersperced with the odd decent scene.
for - darth maul, yoda fighting, coruscant
against - where do you start...jar jar, script, anakin (pinoccio), overly complex story lines, major characters not given enough time, minor characters given too much time...
ep 3 is better for caring a bit more about the characters i.e. obi wan and the vader strand but its still not great....the whole premise is built upon a sith lord hiding in plain sight and a close relationship between anakin and palpatine that has grown so strong over 2 years or so...nah not for me.
it does help to put together some of the things from 4-6 though like when obi wan dies...
for - darth maul, yoda fighting, coruscant
against - where do you start...jar jar, script, anakin (pinoccio), overly complex story lines, major characters not given enough time, minor characters given too much time...
ep 3 is better for caring a bit more about the characters i.e. obi wan and the vader strand but its still not great....the whole premise is built upon a sith lord hiding in plain sight and a close relationship between anakin and palpatine that has grown so strong over 2 years or so...nah not for me.
it does help to put together some of the things from 4-6 though like when obi wan dies...
Edited by Nom de ploom on Tuesday 17th January 14:34
eps said:
Nom de ploom said:
episode three of 1-3 stands up to repeated viewing more than the others I reckon..although they are complicated films....
WTF? Did you tactically leave the room when Jar Jar Binks was on screen??? or fall asleep during those scenes?i'm saying story lines about trade federations, senates and embargos are a bit complicated....esp. for younger audiences.
the good versus evil premise of 4-6 was easier to grasp....
jar jar waas an unfortunate irrelevance
don't forget that eps 1-3 ultimately had to get to episode four in terms of story.
thereofre Lucas was beholden to that ending - in the getting there i bet he wished a new hope was episode 3 not 4 but hey-ho.
the "story" in itself is still a good one.
its the script that is the biggest let down in trying to deliver the story of anakin. some of it is really woeful and as good as jake lloyd is in ep 1, older anakin is a let down pretty much all of the time except when he turns bad...
thereofre Lucas was beholden to that ending - in the getting there i bet he wished a new hope was episode 3 not 4 but hey-ho.
the "story" in itself is still a good one.
its the script that is the biggest let down in trying to deliver the story of anakin. some of it is really woeful and as good as jake lloyd is in ep 1, older anakin is a let down pretty much all of the time except when he turns bad...
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