The James Bond Thread

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Splitting away from the "Moonraker" thread in order to get to the real issues at hand.

I have been a James Bond fan since I was 5 years old and, one rainy Saturday afternoon, Goldfinger was on TV and my dad and I sat and watched it at his insistence, and as soon as I saw that Aston Martin, I was spellbound.

I have seen all of the films multiple times, however, I guess it is also fair to say that I have left it some considerable time between viewings and so each time I watch them again, I don't always remember every bit.

But what I want to know are, what are your Top 3 Bond films and also, Top 3 Bond Songs.

For me:

Films:
1. Goldfinger
2. GoldenEye
3. From Russia With Love

Songs:
1. A View To A Kill
2. Live And Let Die
3. The Spy Who Loved Me

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irocfan said:

has anyone got a favourite villain lair?

Oh yes, definitely the volcano in You Only Live Twice.

should have added - favourite bad guys/henchmen?

1. Jaws
2. Baron Samedi
3. Xenia Onnatopp

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Halmyre said:

Oh yes. Should have been the leading lady. Barbara Bach is terrible.

Similarly, Rosamund Pike in DAD.

Oh yes, I had forgotten about Rosamund Pike. she is rather lovely. I saw her a couple of years ago at St Pancras station, she was having lunch in the Carluccio's restaurant with her friend, both with their children. She was just as lovely looking in person, even just wearing "mummy" clothes.

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Halb said:

SpudLink said:

Sorry, but I’m confused. Are you saying there is a version of Goldeneye where Famke Janssen’s character is not called Xenia Onatopp?

No. The Xenia first pops up on a screen of Russian assassins in The Living Daylights, one of her attributes being she can kill with her thighs. The pic is a pretty chunky lady, like a shot putter. When the character pops up in Goldeneye, all sexed up I thought, 'oh cool' they're using a name from a previous film, which is nice continuity, but now I see it's been dubbed over in TLD, with an almost identical name to the one that 'Q' just mentions. At some point, maybe in the remastering process, somebody decided to Lucas it. Like they did with the timer in Goldfinger. To be clever I guess.

I am too young to have seen The Living Daylights at the cinema, I would only have been about 2, but I never knew this. Certainly I've never seen it mentioned anywhere before. Good tidbit but I can't see it mentioned anywhere else!

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Halb said:

Shakermaker said:

I am too young to have seen The Living Daylights at the cinema, I would only have been about 2, but I never knew this. Certainly I've never seen it mentioned anywhere before. Good tidbit but I can't see it mentioned anywhere else!

Yeah, it's one of those things that has been forgotten I suppose.
I recall someone on a board years ago complaining that they were using the same name in G from TLD, missing the point of continuity.

It was also in the version that was on telly up until...not too sure, I'm guessing post 2000. I'm guessing it happened when the same moron decided to change the timer at the end of Goldfinger from 003 to 007, making what Bond says next completely moronic.
execs...

I guess the dubbed version will be on the DVD that I have inherited from my late father in law (he apparently loved Bond as much as I did).

I guess I just never picked up on it when I first watched TLD and then Goldeneye. I remember going to see Goldeneye at the cinema with my dad in London, the first Bond film I saw at the cinema. I was lucky it was still showing given that it came out in November 1995 and this was February 1996. It was a 12 certificate, but it was the day before my 11th birthday... I felt like such a rebel. I don't think many films these days have a 3 month + run at the cinema!

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Halmyre said:

Bradshaw's List:

26. Casino Royale (1967)
25. Die Another Day (2002)
24. The Living Daylights (1987)
23. Licence to Kill (1989)
22. For Your Eyes Only (1981)
21. Never Say Never Again (1983)
20. Quantum of Solace (2008)
19. The World Is Not Enough (1999)
18. GoldenEye (1995)
17. A View to a Kill (1985)
16. Moonraker (1979)
15. On Her Majesty’s Secret Service (1969)
14. Diamonds Are Forever (1971)
13. Tomorrow Never Dies (1997)
12. Octopussy (1983)
11. The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)
10. The Man With the Golden Gun (1974)
9. Skyfall (2012)
8. Live and Let Die (1973)
7. Thunderball (1965)
6. Spectre (2015)
5. Casino Royale (2006)
4. Dr No (1962)
3. From Russia With Love (1963)
2. Goldfinger (1964)
1. You Only Live Twice (1967)

TND and FYEO are way out of place, as is TMWTGG

Well firstly, I'd discount the "old" Casino Royale and Never Say Never Again. This is my thread, Peter Bradshaw is not allowed to change the rules even if he is a professional film critic...

And here's the other thing from me:

Whilst I can happily list my top 5 or so Bond films, and say which I think are the worst, I'm not so sure I could then rank all the others from best to worst. There is the very real possibility in my mind of there being 16 films on "7th=" position followed by the worst two...

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Release date pushed back to February 2020 as well.

I'm sure I read something somewhere about how the producers started ensuring the films were always released in Autumn in order to get the best box office takings possible, ever since Licence to Kill got a Summer release and didn't get the response expected of it?

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Evercross said:

Well, that was a tad amateurish and cringe-worthy.

Malek confirmed though.

I didn't bother with the live broadcast, but I don't think we've learned anything significant that we didn't already have speculated on anyway?

Biggest news is Phoebe WB on the writing credits..

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gregd said:

That video was rather awkward but looking forward to the Jamaican setting (liked the Fleming-esque villa they showed at the end of the video which seems to be Bond's "retirement house"). Also Ana de Armas.. schwing!

Being a watch geek I was trying to see what Omega Daniel Craig was wearing.. couldn't quite tell.

I don't think it was Fleming-esque.. that WAS Fleming's house. Or did you watch a different video?

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Joe Don Baker - Brad Whittaker in The Living Daylights, and then Jack Wade in Goldeneye and Tomorrow Never Dies

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Definitely no braces.

Pigtails and glasses yes, braces no.

Its probably been thought of because of Jaws' having his teeth so different to normal

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techiedave said:

Goldeneye on ITV (Main Channel) now and +1 at 10.55

Count down Pierce Brosnan Bonds 47 kills in the movie and watch the toy plane hit the base
And I like Pierce thought he did a cracking job. This film was important to the franchise

Edited by techiedave on Saturday 6th July 22:04

GoldenEye was the first Bond Film I was able to see at the cinema (I wasn't even 12, it was the day before my 11th birthday!) when my Dad took me as a treat. So it holds a special place for me.

But i have said it before, and I'll say it again: If you want to introduce your children who live in today's world, to James Bond, this is the film with which to do it.

- Older, but relatable tech
- Awesome stunts
- Nifty gadgets (albeit not in the car, but they can come to that later)
- Unlikely to understand the significance of Sean Bean so early on
- A tank chase!

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Clockwork Cupcake said:

First Bond film that I saw at the cinema. Not long after*, my dad traded in his Lotus Europa for a white Lotus Esprit S3 complete with black rear window slats. People used to ask him if it went underwater. Coolest car ever to be taken to school in.

Edit: goodness knows how he got me into the cinema. I must have been 6 at the time!

Edit2: * - it was on an X plate so a 1982 car, so maybe not "not long after", but he certainly was asked if it went underwater.

Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Monday 8th July 11:18

"A" certificate on release?

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What has been reported is correct but lacks the context that I expect it will all be set in.

Don't forget, Bond has resigned before and not been 007, but that all worked out in the end didn't it? (well, not for Felix's wife)

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OK so we are all agreed then that despite what the rumour mill is trying to pump out in its clickbait-y ways, Bond as a franchise will continue to have a Man as the lead character, probably a white male, and that this small point that Lashana Lynch is playing someone else with the codename 007 will all be resolved by the end of the film ready for whoever takes over from DC.

Thanks.

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3rd April? I thought it was due out 14th Feb?

title doesn't mean much anyway yet, but now we know... now we know!

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still the best Bond film to introduce the series to an 8-10 year old I reckon.

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bobbo89 said:

Exactly how old I was when i fist saw it and was the one that cemented by love of Bond films!

It was the first one I saw at the cinema but unlike dear CC I don't mind admitting that I was 11 at the time when I saw it. As per the opening post to this thread, Goldfinger was the first film I saw and got me into it

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2002 said:

Goldeneye had;

Bungee jump
Cagiva jump off into plane
DB5
F355
Suffocating sex lady
8/10 Bond girl
Russian Coltrane
Belt
Tank
Statue
Train
Plane crash
1.9 4-cyl Z3 (in tourquiose)
Big Sky dish
Pen go boom
Mr Bean gets squished

Best ingredients for bond film.

If they had spliced the 750iL montage into that it would be a 10/10 from me.

That was my post, several pages ago mind you. I completely agree with you and I am pleased to say that "our" advice paid off well, a friend's 10 year old watch GoldenEye the other night on my recommendation and loved it.

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techiedave said:

The World Is Not Enough is on tonight ITV at 9pm and shown again both an hour later on ITV4+1 and then again at 9pm on ITV 4 on Friday

IMO this was the one where the rot set in on Pierce's Bond a poor leading lady both in character and actress and an underwhelming villain.
But its got its good points
The MI6 building is blown up in tis one as well
The pre credits scene takes the length to new err lengths but isn't as well done as in Tomorrow Never Dies. The pre credits sequence includes an appearance by the guy from the BBC Clampers TV series that was popular then
It also marks the end of Desmond LLewellen as the ageing Q who died just a few weeks after this films premiere in 1999.
Contrary to some belief he did not appear in everyone of the EON Bond's to that point.
He first appeared in From Russia With Love and wasn't in Live and Let Die
His final scene comes across as a farewell as he disappears into the basement after seeing Bond. He also introduces his new assistant the disastrously cast John Cleese as "R" who looks to be in the film paving the way to take over (which in the next one he does)

I remember him from Follyfoot which was a kids TV series on ITV in the early 70s

It does have a little bit of BMW Z8 in, which is cool, and that helicopter chainsaw thing was cool.

Plus to a 14 year old me when I saw it, a good amount of Denise Richards nipple poking through her top in the flooding submarine