OJ - Made in America
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Currently on BBC iPlayer.
Amazing 7.5 hr documentary on OJ Simpson's life. All the key players have taken part with the exception of Chris Darden. Obviously very thorough there are a lot of new facts and viewpoints even if you've watched all the OJ documentaries up to this date. Its brilliantly compiled and the film maker gets the subjects to really open up with the exception of Barry Sheck who comes across as a disingenuous oily lawyer refusing to answer a fairly simple question. Highly recommended.
I would add a warning that they do show the crime scene photos in some detail including close ups of the savage wounds to both victims. I'm still not sure it was necessary but I can see why they did it.
Amazing 7.5 hr documentary on OJ Simpson's life. All the key players have taken part with the exception of Chris Darden. Obviously very thorough there are a lot of new facts and viewpoints even if you've watched all the OJ documentaries up to this date. Its brilliantly compiled and the film maker gets the subjects to really open up with the exception of Barry Sheck who comes across as a disingenuous oily lawyer refusing to answer a fairly simple question. Highly recommended.
I would add a warning that they do show the crime scene photos in some detail including close ups of the savage wounds to both victims. I'm still not sure it was necessary but I can see why they did it.
Edited by Marty Funkhouser on Sunday 12th March 20:10
I keep thinking to the brilliant question the parole board woman asks him right at the start of the film - something like "When was your first arrest?".
She obviously can't mention the trial as he was cleared but she's clearly saying to him "I know what you did you murderous mother****er and Hell will freeze over before I grant you parole."
She obviously can't mention the trial as he was cleared but she's clearly saying to him "I know what you did you murderous mother****er and Hell will freeze over before I grant you parole."
MYOB said:
I can assure you this isn't from the day she was murdered. Awful history of spousal abuse, but I don't think he was capable of carrying out pyschotic murders. The photos from the crime scenes were unbelievable, My opinion is his son had the mental health issues and displayed pyschotic behaviours.
How on earth can you watch that documentary and not think he had it in him to do it???- No alibi
- The gloves
- His DNA at the scene
- History of abuse
- On record threatening to kill her
- The remarks he's made since the killings ("If she hadn't answered the door holding a knife she'd be alive now...")
- His bizarre behaviour immediately after the crime and prior to his arrest
You really can't be serious?
MYOB said:
I believe he was there, hence his DNA. But I wonder whether he found his son there after the incident. The man killed fought for a number of minutes, was a black belt in karate and oj only had a small cut on his finger.
His son fits the profile of someone psychotic enough to commit the horrific murders. His son had mental health issues, stopped taking his medication and was known to carry knives. Think her used a knife on an ex girlfriend.
Why didn't oj first wife (mother of said son ) ever make any comments about domestic abuse re oj in their marriage? Maybe she kept quiet because she knew her son was involved.
Yes, oj was guilty of spousal abuse. But I cannot believe he would commit the murders. Did you see the crime scene photos? I seriously find it hard to believe he could go that far. His son on the other hand portrayed the tendencies but his records were sealed.
Read up about wife murderers, not many have histories of mental problems. OJ fits the profile of the wife murderer to a tee - the escalation of violence, the profound insecurities. There are too many circumstantial and forensic coincidences for it to be anyone else but OJ. Besides, the DNA testing would have shown it wasn't OJ but someone related to him had it been his son. He didn't get convicted due to incompetence, luck and racism. IMO given the long and hideous history of white on black murders and horrible crimes I can understand the desire of the black members of the jury to want to even things up a little. Saying things like "I just can't believe OJ would do it" are ludicrous.His son fits the profile of someone psychotic enough to commit the horrific murders. His son had mental health issues, stopped taking his medication and was known to carry knives. Think her used a knife on an ex girlfriend.
Why didn't oj first wife (mother of said son ) ever make any comments about domestic abuse re oj in their marriage? Maybe she kept quiet because she knew her son was involved.
Yes, oj was guilty of spousal abuse. But I cannot believe he would commit the murders. Did you see the crime scene photos? I seriously find it hard to believe he could go that far. His son on the other hand portrayed the tendencies but his records were sealed.
MYOB said:
It didn't feature in the TV show but the male victim, a black belt in karate, apparently fought the attacker for approx 15 minutes. And yes, there were a bit a blood in the Bronco in the footwell and a speck above the door handle. This suggests that OJ was there but given the amount of blood at the scene, surely the attacker would have been covered in blood and thus, why did the interior not have more blood say on the seat, arm rests etc? Blood was lacking in his house too...there were little blood outside.
Also, OJ has extremely severe arthritis and the medical experts say that OJ would not have been able to fight in the way the evidence suggests. His body could not have handled it.
Again, yes he was obviously guilty of spousal abuse. Cowardly attacks on his wife but apart from that, there is no record elsewhere of his propensity to violence. Even in Vegas at the robbery, there was no sign no violence from OJ.
Furnham really messed up the case by taking the 5th, especially when asked if he planted evidence!
Where's the evidence of this 15 minute struggle? First time I've ever heard this.Also, OJ has extremely severe arthritis and the medical experts say that OJ would not have been able to fight in the way the evidence suggests. His body could not have handled it.
Again, yes he was obviously guilty of spousal abuse. Cowardly attacks on his wife but apart from that, there is no record elsewhere of his propensity to violence. Even in Vegas at the robbery, there was no sign no violence from OJ.
Furnham really messed up the case by taking the 5th, especially when asked if he planted evidence!
MYOB said:
Did OJ have a weapon? Was he violent? The whole Vegas thing is a cluster f**k and with the other parties being offered deals to testify against OJ, we cannot be certain what actually occurred. The Vegas thing sound like a stitch up just to imprison OJ.
He was in a room, with a gun threatening people. Its hardly a stitch up.MYOB said:
Brute strength to fight a young strong man who's a black belt in karate.
People react very differently when they're actually faced with a lunatic with a knife who they may have just seen murdering Nicole. Don't forget he the lad was there returning some glasses that had been left at the restaurant. He walks up the path and is confronted by that scene or he's there prior to OJ's arrival and witnesses the murder. People react very very differently to real stress as opposed to the black belt classes he took. Also maybe he was stabbed before he had a chance to react - making his attempts to fight off OJ compromised.My point is that it doesn't matter how young, strong or well trained you are - reacting to a real situation is very different.
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