Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely

[donna180]

The BBC are soooo politically biased towards Labour - so blatantly that it's not even worth quoting examples but the way Newsnight covered Camerson's using the veto and general coverage on Europe/spending/economy......

And there's always labour red in the background in the studios....

And least the mail picked up on it but for a public sector organisation surely an independent body needs to monitor the situation.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2072307/Ho...

[donna180]

I'd be happy to opt completely out of the BBC and just use Sky but that's just me.

I think the Govt, need to act now and act hard - after all, I'm sure Labour would do something if the situation were reversed. The BBC's bias is just comical now....

[donna180]

thinfourth2 said:

donna180 said:

And there's always labour red in the background in the studios....

Tin foil hat for one please

if you think that the studio colour is decided on to make you vote labour might suggest the problem isn't the BBC but in your head

It wouldn't affect me as I've never voted Labour.

So why not a neutral colour.... Always red.

There's bound to be a subliminal effect around election time for some people....

Edit: easy answer: let them change red to blue whereever they have red, put blue.

Edited by donna180 on Saturday 10th December 11:34

[donna180]

Eric Mc said:

bennyboydurham said:

Eric Mc said:

Do you ever watch "This Week"?

I do and Andrew Neil is one of the BBC's finest in that his outlook is not intrisically 'of the left' as seems to be the default setting from the Beeb but unless you watch This Week or The Daily Politics then sadly all you'll ever get is the constant evil Tories meme...

So, it's not "constant" really. They do show and allow other views. It's just that people chose not to listen to or watch the programmes where they might hear or see these viewpoints.

Radio 4 is another location where alternative views and very lively and educated debate and discussion of ALL sides of the various political divides are aired all the time.

Eric, I always enjoy your views - radio 4 might be a good example (I never listen) but it's the mainstream news and current event programs that affect the mass vote and they always seem biased.

[donna180]

Eric Mc said:

donna180 said:

Eric Mc said:

bennyboydurham said:

Eric Mc said:

Do you ever watch "This Week"?

I do and Andrew Neil is one of the BBC's finest in that his outlook is not intrisically 'of the left' as seems to be the default setting from the Beeb but unless you watch This Week or The Daily Politics then sadly all you'll ever get is the constant evil Tories meme...

So, it's not "constant" really. They do show and allow other views. It's just that people chose not to listen to or watch the programmes where they might hear or see these viewpoints.

Radio 4 is another location where alternative views and very lively and educated debate and discussion of ALL sides of the various political divides are aired all the time.

Eric, I always enjoy your views - radio 4 might be a good example (I never listen) but it's the mainstream news and current event programs that affect the mass vote and they always seem biased.

Don't critise the messenger if you chose not to listen to all the messages they are carrying. I agree that mainstream news does carry bias and is far too simplistic in its approach on far too many topics. Indeed, simplistic news coverage is endemic across a lot of the broadcast media. not just the BBC.

However, of all the broadcasters, it is the BBC that carries the widest, deepest and most varied views. Granted, you might have to listen and look a bit harder to find these alternative view points, but those views are there.

And if you don't listen to Radio 4, start now. It will change your life.

Well, think a supposedly high brow organisation should strive for political objectivity in its mainstream programs and I don't want to be stuck watching TV all the time and unrealistic for others to do so....

There needs to be a review of BBC news reporting impartiality in this country because it is so blatantly biased.

(I'll check out R4. )

[donna180]

chris watton said:

I have read that the BBC get quite substantial funding from the EU - can anyone confirm this?

That's interesting - anyone know? - Surely they should be forced to state that in any broadcast/item on the EU, if that's the case....

[donna180]

freakybacon said:

No-one mentioned this site yet then?

http://www.biased-bbc.blogspot.com/

Excellent.

[donna180]

marcosgt said:

donna180 said:

I'd be happy to opt completely out of the BBC and just use Sky but that's just me.

I think the Govt, need to act now and act hard - after all, I'm sure Labour would do something if the situation were reversed. The BBC's bias is just comical now....

Ah, well there you have it.

You'll believe what Sky tells you, but not the BBC!

Maybe the BBC are biased or maybe you are and just aren't used to more objective reporting?

I take it you don't read the papers or are you under the impression that they're all totally impartial politically?

As for "Labour Red" - For God's Sake, for years the logos were white on a BLUE background? I assume you wrote to complain about that? Thought not... It's just a colour - I'm happier for them to spend license payer's money on programmes than on a full branding overhaul to appease your political paranoia...

M.

So funny they changed them for the labour conference a while ago....

I prefer Sky and opt for it. I don't like the beeb but I can't opt out of it. It's simply a flat yearly tax on the poor.

Cameron should review and make the beeb self fund and scrap the fee - the Worldwide advantages/World Service bla bla bla.... are overstated esp. since English and Mandarin are now the defacto World languages....

[donna180]

thinfourth2 said:

Ahonen said:

You missed Hislop taking some big swipes at the Labour MP on his team.

He didn't miss Hislop having a go at labour he just completely ignored it

Just some people are so far up Camerons arse that anything other then a 24/7 love fest towards the tory party is seen as total bias towards the labour party. it some thing very similar to the professionally offended.

Its not the BBC that has an extreme left wing bias it is someone with a personal bias so far towards the tory party anything that is neutral is seen as left wing bias hence the BBC which have a slight left wing leaning are seen as a 24/7 love fest towards the communist party.

When someone thinks that the red logo is a secret message to vote labour then are your sure their view of the world isn't slight skewed

I'm not complaining about HIGNFY - I'm complaining about peak time News Coverage and obvious bias by the BBC in reporting current affairs - coloured (no pun intended) as mentioned, by the type of people working there and the culture....

You're fixated by the red studio comment and repeating it but adding nothing to the debate.

The sooner there's a proper debate on the Beeb, and they get rid of the license fee, the better in my view. If they simply scrapped the whole BBC (it's just a vast public funded job creation scheme...), how much would they save per year - I think you'd find the answer would be a lot once the journalists had retrained or let them self fund with adverts....

[What's the left wing done in the last 15 years under Blair/Brown - a few pointless Wars, record public sector size crowding out the private sector, massive unfunded pension liabilities, Govt debt, artificial growth, a greater percentage reduction of our manufacturing base than under the Thatcher Govt, housing bubble.....]

Edited by donna180 on Saturday 10th December 20:53

[donna180]

thinfourth2 said:

donna180 said:

The sooner there's a proper debate on the Beeb, and they get rid of the license fee, the better in my view. If they simply scrapped the whole BBC (it's just a vast public funded job creation scheme...), how much would they save per year

And how much would we lose if the BBC was scrapped?

Venture away from BBC1 and you will wide a wide range of utterly brilliant programming that the commercial sector wouldn't touch with a barge pole.

I seriously believe that the UK wouldn't be a world leader in the music industry if we didn't have radio 1 and the likes of the late great John Peel the BBC radio stations push new bands like no other. i wouldn't be surprised if BBC radio created a profit for the UK.


BBC1 could vanish tomorrow and i wouldn't even notice. Go near 6 music, radio 4, BBC2 or BBC4 and I'll be seriously pissed off.

Watch this and tell me a commercial station would touch it with a barge pole
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b012w66t/Afte...

And as to the constant complaint about bias on Question time please show me the commercial equivilant

Re radio, they used to I agree. But now - I don't know anyone who listens to R1... Hasn't the internet killed CDs/influenced the music industry more.... Not sure I can comment on radio though as don't really listen.

Channel 4 news is less biased I find.

The beeb flogs most programs to other Countries - put in a few adverts/cut down on trying to do everthing/Sport.... Top Gear and a lot of programs are commercially produced....

The National Geographic channel does brilliantly.....

[donna180]

SalesManager said:

Oakeshott is being wheeled on every 5 seconds to present his one sided lefty spin. Thanks BBC.

We need a concerted effort via the government petition site.

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/265

Edited by SalesManager on Sunday 11th December 14:35

Excellent idea.

[donna180]

Diderot said:

turbobloke said:

"When it comes to control the BBC is the only media organisation that even attempts to be impartial"

Have another

Actually, Fittster, I may have to sue you for splitting my sides.

I nearly peed myself....

[donna180]

Last year, BBC Director General Mark Thompson accepted the Corporation had previously been guilty of a ‘massive’ Left-wing bias. He also confessed that the BBC’s coverage of Europe had been ‘weak and rather nervous’.
Promising a change of course, Mr Thompson added: ‘We have made some progress there, but I think there are more areas where we can make progress.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2073358/BB...


Not much progress this week.....

[donna180]

Surely the Tory party has funds for employing a few researchers to monitor the main BBC news and then justify an external committee to monitor and have independent auditors in the studio ensuring impartiality.... Just cut funding to the beeb pro-rata to pay for it. Should be a set formula in News Reporting, BBC reports facts impartially (get new impartial staff as required). Govt allowed to respond, opposition allowed to respond with same airtime as Govt.. Easy.

It's just a taxpayer funded attempt to distort democracy....

Or alternatively, stop the Beeb from reporting on News/current affairs as there are multiple free channels that do this......

Edited by donna180 on Friday 16th December 17:47

[donna180]

Halb said:

Eric Mc said:

king arthur said:

Eric Mc said:

Do you ever watch "This Week"?

The problem is Eric, not many people do...

So, the biasdness is based on viewing habits rather than actual output?

Quite.
That show on Sunday mornings (hosted by a Scottish dj?) also has a 'righty' feel to it.

So a few minor less viewed shows where the audience is intelligent and less likely to be influenced versus mainstream news which is watched by millions and has far more bias. That can't be right.

[donna180]

Halb said:

donna180 said:

Halb said:

Eric Mc said:

king arthur said:

Eric Mc said:

Do you ever watch "This Week"?

The problem is Eric, not many people do...

So, the biasdness is based on viewing habits rather than actual output?

Quite.
That show on Sunday mornings (hosted by a Scottish dj?) also has a 'righty' feel to it.

So a few minor less viewed shows where the audience is intelligent and less likely to be influenced versus mainstream news which is watched by millions and has far more bias. That can't be right.

How do you know it is less viewed? And how do you know they are more intelligent? Rather bland generalizations. I watch QT, the SUnday show and Neils stuff. People watch what they wish to.

Viewing figures... Maybe slighly bland generalisation but there's no denying a massive bias in mainstream/much watched News reporting....

[donna180]

Now their websites at it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/

Revised econ growth figures upwards placed below Turkey retaliates for French Bill.....

I bet if the econ growth figures were revised down it would be the lead item.

Edited by donna180 on Thursday 22 December 19:38

[donna180]

Mr Snap said:

thinfourth2 said:

donna180 said:

Now their websites at it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/

Revised econ growth figures upwards placed below Turkey retaliates for French Bill.....

I bet if the econ growth figures were revised down it would be the lead item.

In your head that's because they love labour

In my head it's because the whole media have a hard on for bad news

Nor is it the lead story for The Telegraph.
What a bunch of pinkoes...

It's relatively higher placed on the telegraph home page though....

[donna180]

Sticks. said:

donna180 said:

Now their websites at it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/

Revised econ growth figures upwards placed below Turkey retaliates for French Bill.....

I bet if the econ growth figures were revised down it would be the lead item.

Edited by donna180 on Thursday 22 December 19:38

It's above it now. Your point was.....?

Turkey stories are always in the news at Christmas anyway.

Good, it should be (although it took all day!)- the point being that it has more relevance to the UK than a Turkish report and it looked like the Beeb were trying to bury it.

[donna180]

Mr Snap said:

donna180 said:

Mr Snap said:

thinfourth2 said:

donna180 said:

Now their websites at it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/

Revised econ growth figures upwards placed below Turkey retaliates for French Bill.....

I bet if the econ growth figures were revised down it would be the lead item.

In your head that's because they love labour

In my head it's because the whole media have a hard on for bad news

Nor is it the lead story for The Telegraph.
What a bunch of pinkoes...

It's relatively higher placed on the telegraph home page though....

And now - ten minutes later - it isn't even on the Telegraph's front page but it's still on the BBC's.

It's a silly way of measuring a news outlet's political stance; unless you were to do it in a statistically valid way and over a long period of time.
You haven't, so it's just your biased opinion and as worthless as my biased opinion is on the same matter...

It's there now on the Telegraph site: - bold entry under Finance "UK GDP revised up".

Agree about method but no time and CBA but it still looked less than impartial reporting to me.