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Are we just going to keep allowing immigration until we are outnumbered in our own country (genocide)? A few immigrants and no one would have been bothered, but it has went way, way beyond that now.
85% of our country was White British way back in 2001 (from the census). They have been allowing over half a million into our country every single year since then. They already make up 20 odd %, and they are still letting more in.
Being outnumbered in your own country is something that happens when you lose a war, it is not something you deliberately choose. Under no circumstances whatsoever are we doing that.
We have to stop immigration, and also begin a repatriation programme to get the numbers back down to a reasonable level.
85% of our country was White British way back in 2001 (from the census). They have been allowing over half a million into our country every single year since then. They already make up 20 odd %, and they are still letting more in.
Being outnumbered in your own country is something that happens when you lose a war, it is not something you deliberately choose. Under no circumstances whatsoever are we doing that.
We have to stop immigration, and also begin a repatriation programme to get the numbers back down to a reasonable level.
McFsC said:
Yeh, I totally agree with that.
Somewhere in the middle would be good, like you said, we breed our own criminals so why should we invite an excess from the rest of the world to live here? I don't want to live with them in their country, I don't want to live with them in the country I was born.
The solution is to have more stringent checks, be a little stricter and get the number of immigrants coming to live in the UK per year down to about 25,000.
They already make up 20 odd %, isn't that enough ( too much in fact)? Imagine say China making 20 odd % of China non Chinese, or Japan making Japan 20 odd % non Japanese, or Pakistan making Pakistan 20 odd % non Pakistani, and still letting more in, and you will see how unnatural and insane and wrong this is. We are not doing this to our own people in our own country either. Somewhere in the middle would be good, like you said, we breed our own criminals so why should we invite an excess from the rest of the world to live here? I don't want to live with them in their country, I don't want to live with them in the country I was born.
The solution is to have more stringent checks, be a little stricter and get the number of immigrants coming to live in the UK per year down to about 25,000.
Funkycoldribena said:
Meridius said:
I work with about 20 Polish guys, they are excellent workers.
Always makes me laugh when people say this.Of course they're good workers when they're on probably the equivalent of 3 times the money they would earn in their own country.I think we have all had quite enough of this type of bs.
Edited by FrankyH on Saturday 30th June 13:33
aizvara said:
I'm all for immigration, here and elsewhere. My girlfriend is an immigrant, my son can therefore claim two nationalities as his own. Many of my friends and colleagues are immigrants too.
My family has lived in Saudi, when I was younger. I would like the opportunity to live and work abroad again, too. My family also apparently partly comes from Spain, some generations ago.
What is the problem you anti-immigration people have with my friends, colleagues and all the other immigrants that make up the UK? Is it financial, physical, psychological harm or what?
A few immigrants, and there would have been no problem. We are way beyond that stage now. The problem is they want to allow immigration until we are outnumbered in our own country (genocide), surely any reasonable person can see what I am saying here? My family has lived in Saudi, when I was younger. I would like the opportunity to live and work abroad again, too. My family also apparently partly comes from Spain, some generations ago.
What is the problem you anti-immigration people have with my friends, colleagues and all the other immigrants that make up the UK? Is it financial, physical, psychological harm or what?
We have a choice here, this is not something you deliberately choose (obviously).
Colonial said:
FrankyH said:
A few immigrants, and there would have been no problem. We are way beyond that stage now. The problem is they want to allow immigration until we are outnumbered in our own country (genocide), surely any reasonable person can see what I am saying here?
We have a choice here, this is not something you deliberately choose (obviously).
Only if you classify the children of immigrants as not being British. We have a choice here, this is not something you deliberately choose (obviously).
Do you a problem with New Zealand migrants or is it those that don't look like you?
R1gtr said:
I am not that bothered about people coming here to work, all credit to them.
However I do have a problem with them being given preferential treatment, we treat them better than we ourselves would be treated if we moved to Poland for example. Can you imagine what would happen if you showed up in Poland and expected a Council house, benefits for your kids back home in Blighty and expected to go straight to the top of the NHS queue?? Quite rightly they would tell you to do one.
I am proud that people would like to come to Britain to work and intigrate into our culture as long as they are not here for a free handout.
My only concern is that if some regulations are not put in place then younger generations may suffer when trying to find employment.
You are talking like there's only a few immigrants. They already make up 20 odd %, and they are still letting more in. Isn't 20 odd % enough? (too much in fact).However I do have a problem with them being given preferential treatment, we treat them better than we ourselves would be treated if we moved to Poland for example. Can you imagine what would happen if you showed up in Poland and expected a Council house, benefits for your kids back home in Blighty and expected to go straight to the top of the NHS queue?? Quite rightly they would tell you to do one.
I am proud that people would like to come to Britain to work and intigrate into our culture as long as they are not here for a free handout.
My only concern is that if some regulations are not put in place then younger generations may suffer when trying to find employment.
So you think we should just keep allowing immigration until we are outnumbered in our own country (genocide)? We have a choice here, and this is what you think we should choose to do to our own people in our own country?
I do not. Everyone is going to decide who they agree with.
Edited by FrankyH on Sunday 1st July 16:30
unrepentant said:
FrankyH said:
They already make up 20 odd %, isn't that enough ( too much in fact)? Imagine say China making 20 odd % of China non Chinese, or Japan making Japan 20 odd % non Japanese, or Pakistan making Pakistan 20 odd % non Pakistani, and still letting more in, and you will see how unnatural and insane and wrong this is. We are not doing this to our own people in our own country either.
Who are our own people?And when you say "they" who do you mean? Theat pretty blonde Australian barmaid? That Kevin Pietersen fellow?
Halb said:
FrankyH said:
They already make up 20 odd %, isn't that enough ( too much in fact)? Imagine say China making 20 odd % of China non Chinese, or Japan making Japan 20 odd % non Japanese, or Pakistan making Pakistan 20 odd % non Pakistani, and still letting more in, and you will see how unnatural and insane and wrong this is. We are not doing this to our own people in our own country either.
20 odd %? Where is that number from?I wouldn't wish to emulate the Japanese, they are a particularly racist lot.
Edited by FrankyH on Sunday 1st July 16:29
Mermaid said:
If the government was to say " with immediate effect, and for 3 years, there will be zero immigration whilst we sort ourselves out. Once we are in rude health, we will re-open the gates on a measured basis."
Would the majority of the population be in favour of that decision?
What's the point in only slowing down when we are outnumbered in our own country? Would the majority of the population be in favour of that decision?
Mermaid said:
Theresa May 'planning changes to immigrant test'
The home secretary said it was difficult to say how migration would develop in the coming weeks
UK plans for EU immigration rise
Home Secretary Theresa May is reported to be planning changes to the test taken by foreign nationals who wish to become British citizens.
The Life in the United Kingdom test was introduced by Labour in 2005.
The Sunday Times says immigrants will be told "historically the UK is a Christian country".
The revised version will focus less on the practicalities of daily living in Britain and require more knowledge of British history and achievements.
Inventions and discoveries
The paper says immigrants will also have to learn the first verse of the national anthem before they can become UK citizens.
Mrs May is understood to have scrapped sections of the test which dealt with claiming benefits and the Human Rights Act.
Instead potential immigrants will be expected to learn about Byron, the Duke of Wellington, Shakespeare and other historical and cultural figures.
The new handbook, expected to be issued in the autumn, will include sections about key battles, such as Trafalgar, and British inventions and discoveries.
A Home Office official said: "It's a move away from the old one - stuff on rights, practical info that has little to do with British culture - to one that is clear about responsibilities and requires people to have a grounding in our history."
The handbook is the basis of a 45-minute test which potential citizens can take at one of 90 centres around the UK.
Oh well!, they can outnumber us in our own country (genocide) now, this changes everything! (SARCASM)The home secretary said it was difficult to say how migration would develop in the coming weeks
UK plans for EU immigration rise
Home Secretary Theresa May is reported to be planning changes to the test taken by foreign nationals who wish to become British citizens.
The Life in the United Kingdom test was introduced by Labour in 2005.
The Sunday Times says immigrants will be told "historically the UK is a Christian country".
The revised version will focus less on the practicalities of daily living in Britain and require more knowledge of British history and achievements.
Inventions and discoveries
The paper says immigrants will also have to learn the first verse of the national anthem before they can become UK citizens.
Mrs May is understood to have scrapped sections of the test which dealt with claiming benefits and the Human Rights Act.
Instead potential immigrants will be expected to learn about Byron, the Duke of Wellington, Shakespeare and other historical and cultural figures.
The new handbook, expected to be issued in the autumn, will include sections about key battles, such as Trafalgar, and British inventions and discoveries.
A Home Office official said: "It's a move away from the old one - stuff on rights, practical info that has little to do with British culture - to one that is clear about responsibilities and requires people to have a grounding in our history."
The handbook is the basis of a 45-minute test which potential citizens can take at one of 90 centres around the UK.
Chris Type R said:
It's all very well tinkering with tests, and introducing points systems, but none of this applies to EU immigration. I can't imagine that there will be quotas introduced to limit the number of people gaining political asylum either.
So basically it's a band-aid on a small part of the "problem". The pressures on infrastructure, education, healthcare, etc. are likely to remain largely unchanged.
I don't know what the solution is.
Stop immigration, and begin a repatriation programme to get the numbers back down to a reasonable level.So basically it's a band-aid on a small part of the "problem". The pressures on infrastructure, education, healthcare, etc. are likely to remain largely unchanged.
I don't know what the solution is.
Use Psychology said:
why is it genocide if there are more of 'them' than 'us'?
Here's another example of the propaganda they use to get us to accept deliberately making our own people outnumbered in our own country.Outnumber the Chinese in China, The Japanese in Japan, the Pakistanis in Pakistan, etc., then tell them "what's wrong with this?".
We are not doing this to our own people in our own country either.
elster said:
FrankyH said:
Are we just going to keep allowing immigration until we are outnumbered in our own country (genocide)? A few immigrants and no one would have been bothered, but it has went way, way beyond that now.
85% of our country was White British way back in 2001 (from the census). They have been allowing over half a million into our country every single year since then. They already make up 20 odd %, and they are still letting more in.
Being outnumbered in your own country is something that happens when you lose a war, it is not something you deliberately choose. Under no circumstances whatsoever are we doing that.
We have to stop immigration, and also begin a repatriation programme to get the numbers back down to a reasonable level.
This guy is a definite keeper. 85% of our country was White British way back in 2001 (from the census). They have been allowing over half a million into our country every single year since then. They already make up 20 odd %, and they are still letting more in.
Being outnumbered in your own country is something that happens when you lose a war, it is not something you deliberately choose. Under no circumstances whatsoever are we doing that.
We have to stop immigration, and also begin a repatriation programme to get the numbers back down to a reasonable level.
Just had a brilliant laugh reading this thread.
Maybe if you brought some facts into the argument, such as we don't have a problem with immigration. Only the media spin of it.
Spain, now they have a big problem with immigration from all the Brits moving there. Many of who say they prefer it there due to the Brits there and no immigrants... Certainly no joined up though there.
Immigration is no different in the UK to most of the rest of the world.
We are not doing this either.
obob said:
FrankyH said:
Did any of you grow up thinking "I hope some day we are outnumbered in our own country"?
We are not doing that guys.
If we are not doing that then why are you so concerned? and as I said before you have your numbers very wrong. It was 8%.We are not doing that guys.
You are a deliberate liar.
They already make up 20 odd %, and they are still letting more in. That's a quarter of our country foreign, imagine China a quarter foreign and still letting more in, or Japan, or Pakistan, etc., etc., etc. This is an absolute humiliation. I think we are all sick to death of this humiliation.
Everyone needs to wake up to the fact of how serious this is, this is not a joke, they want to keep allowing immigration until we are outnumbered in our own country (genocide). You are not imagining this. We have to stop this.
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