scotland to reduce Drink Drive limit

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-pol...

Apart from annoying the locals, how will this work? Will there be checkpoints at the border catching people who had been perfectly fine in England but are now dangerously drunk in Scotland?

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Einion Yrth said:

I wonder how many accidents are caused by people with between 50 and 80 mg per 100ml, since this is the only group that could conceivably be affected by this.

Exactly. These measures are always justified by saying how many people are killed by drink drivers, neglecting to mention that anyone who was a drink driver before will still be one, just to a greater degree.

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Edinburger said:

simoid said:

I like a pint if I go out for a meal or something. Usually I'll drive and the missus will have a couple of glasses of wine. I'll make my first drink a pint of something nice, then have water or soft drinks. This law is nothing more than a restriction on my freedom to enjoy a pint responsibly.

Why do you have a pint when you know you'll be driving?

Because it is legal, safe and enjoyable?

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Edinburger said:

wolves_wanderer said:

Because it is legal, safe and enjoyable?

Would you fly in a plane knowing the pilot has just had a pint?

What on earth has that got to do with anything? We are talking about the drink drive limit, not the flying limit (which is a lot lower).

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Edinburger said:

Corpulent Tosser said:

If that is what you do then fine, but if others want to do different, within the law, then why not ?

But others are suggesting the proposed law change is wrong because they want to have a drink and drive.

Fundamentally, that's wrong.

It isn't wrong. Back in the days when laws were set according to logic rather than emotion the limit was set at its current level because it represents a balance between freedom and increased risk. If you never drive tired, with kids in the car, with a cold, talking to a passenger, listening to something annoying on the radio or stressed then you can lecture the rest of us about having one pint and driving. If you do any of these legal things that increase risk then you're a hypocrite.

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Edinburger said:

Dr Jekyll said:

Surely the sensible would be the amount of alcohol that degrades your driving ability to the level of your local minicab driver. I don't drive after drinking, but I'm amused by the notion that getting a minicab is the risk free option.

LOL true!

6 pints and whiskey chasers it is!

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anonymous said:

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You asked what the purpose of having the first sip was, when people have explained you've got all grumpy. Why ask the question in the first place?

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Edinburger said:

Just to clarify and to answer a question someone put to me: my point was that we should drink or drive. I personally don't see the point in just having one. If I'm out then I'm out and I'm having several. One pint is pointless. And if I'm driving then one pint is madness.

Whereas I am capable of enjoying one pint without feeling tortured by it and needing to have more. I'm not Scottish though so that may explain it.

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Tarmaccers eh? I wonder if any do some scrap metal dealing on the side...