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mikal83

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Why don't the Syrian refugees head east to Iran/Iraq/Pakistan etc. They speak Arabic, its closer and warmer than Sweden?
Ditto for the Sudanese. Head west to Nigeria, up to Chad etc. Cold nasty Europe.......???

mikal83

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I read that nearly a Million refugees have come to the EU this year but don't read about any going to a neighboring country.

Daily Mail/Nazi Germany...lost me on that one.

The "Arabic" language bit was just a generalization. Sweden etc aint exactly Libya is it!

mikal83

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On the subject of Syria then. Why don't they go to Iraq/Lebanon/Israel/Egypt etc. Stay in Turkey, head due north to the Caucuses maybe even Russia.....Ukraine, Poland etc. But on the TV today was a story about a young woman with a group trying to get to Sweden.....thru Bulgaria and up.

mikal83

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Wednesday 2nd September 2015
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No Bend said:
mikal83 said:
On the subject of Syria then. Why don't they go to Iraq/Lebanon/Israel/Egypt etc. Stay in Turkey, head due north to the Caucuses maybe even Russia.....Ukraine, Poland etc. But on the TV today was a story about a young woman with a group trying to get to Sweden.....thru Bulgaria and up.
Israel?? Do you know anything of world politics??? And Ukraine may accept them, but the country is in a spot of bother itself - But Israel? That would be funny if it wasn't so ignorant.
Probably more than you. Please explain why Arabic people cant go to Israel. Arent there Arabic people already there? Western Ukraine. Georgia, huge country with quite a low population density as is Poland, then theres Russia..... Iran is humongous.

mikal83

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Wednesday 2nd September 2015
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fizz47 said:
mikal83 said:
Probably more than you. Please explain why Arabic people cant go to Israel. Arent there Arabic people already there? Western Ukraine. Georgia, huge country with quite a low population density as is Poland, then theres Russia..... Iran is humongous.
I dont know if you are being serious or not?

Honestly I am not trying to sound condescending but I think maybe you need to do a little more research on whats happening in the region.

To illustrate the point as a British Passport Holder I caanot enter Israel and then enter into most Arab / Muslim countries on the same passport.
You must be on some sort of wanted list, I have been to Egypt and then 8 months later Israel and saw lots of Arabs when there. The Sinai is all but mt, would make a great new city. Japan, how many refugees have they taken in the last 10 yrs. Germany, yes they are taking more than us, now, but its a lot bigger land/population density etc...Spain/france...

mikal83

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BlackLabel said:
mikal83 said:
You must be on some sort of wanted list, I have been to Egypt and then 8 months later Israel and saw lots of Arabs when there. The Sinai is all but mt, would make a great new city. Japan, how many refugees have they taken in the last 10 yrs. Germany, yes they are taking more than us, now, but its a lot bigger land/population density etc...Spain/france...
Nothing to do with a wanted list (I assume smile )

It's common knowledge that if you have visited Israel many Arab and Muslim countries won't let you in their country if they find out.


article said:
Needless to say, trying to find exact information as to which countries will deny you entrance based upon having an Israeli stamp varies wildly. As one would assume, a country that denies entrance to another country’s citizens based solely on their citizenship is likely not a country with a model bureaucracy staffed with honest, highly-trained personnel who follow strict orders.

However, there does seem to be some consensus as to which countries do restrict access. They are as follows:

Syria
Lebanon
Libya
Kuwait
Iran
Iraq (except the northern Kurdish region)
Sudan
Yemen

There have also been reports of problems entering the following countries:

Saudi Arabia (reportedly not strictly enforced due to pressure by the U.S.)
Malaysia
Pakistan
Algeria
Indonesia
U.A.E.

However, that being said, even a cursory search through Lonely Planet’s thorn tree forum reveals numerous instances of travelers entering the above countries despite having an Israeli stamp — most likely a result of local border guards stamping passports without bothering to spend much time looking through it. Bribes, insistent pleadings, name-dropping and just plain good luck all seemed to have also played a part in travelers getting by these restrictions.
http://www.theexpeditioner.com/2012/03/14/are-you-banned-from-certain-countries-if-you-have-an-israeli-stamp-in-your-passport/

If you are a British passport holder who has visited Israel and wants to then visit say Kuwait the authorities here will issue you with a second passport:

http://pointstobemade.boardingarea.com/2014/03/25/...

It is ludicrous to suggest Syrian refugees will be granted entry to Israel.
Oh and just b4 we went to Israel, we were in Abu Dhabi?



mikal83

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Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Jeremy Vine said yesterday that he had just got back from Jockland and it was quite mt in the highlands.....so room up there?

mikal83

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Friday 4th September 2015
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davepoth said:
No Bend said:
mikal83 said:
No Bend said:
mikal83 said:
On the subject of Syria then. Why don't they go to Iraq/Lebanon/Israel/Egypt etc. Stay in Turkey, head due north to the Caucuses maybe even Russia.....Ukraine, Poland etc. But on the TV today was a story about a young woman with a group trying to get to Sweden.....thru Bulgaria and up.
Israel?? Do you know anything of world politics??? And Ukraine may accept them, but the country is in a spot of bother itself - But Israel? That would be funny if it wasn't so ignorant.
Probably more than you. Please explain why Arabic people cant go to Israel. Arent there Arabic people already there?
You are an ignoramus. Either totally ignorant, plain thick as pig st, or just looking for an argument and trolling.
Israel's Central Bureau of Statistics suggests that somewhere over 20% of Israel's population (not including the Palestinian territories) is Arab.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Isr...

Regardless, as a signatory to the 1951 Convention on Refugees Israel is required to accept anyone with a legitimate asylum claim.

http://www.unhcr.org/3b73b0d63.html

I think you owe him an apology.
Oops.

mikal83

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Friday 4th September 2015
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Mermaid said:
BMRuss said:
Would interested to know where the £920m we have given Syria in aid (which is more than the rest of Europe put together) actually goes?
The middle east peace envoy probably got a share of that, so he could buy one more house.

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Cover of latest P Eye says it all.

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