Political refugees etc
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On the subject of Syria then. Why don't they go to Iraq/Lebanon/Israel/Egypt etc. Stay in Turkey, head due north to the Caucuses maybe even Russia.....Ukraine, Poland etc. But on the TV today was a story about a young woman with a group trying to get to Sweden.....thru Bulgaria and up.
No Bend said:
mikal83 said:
On the subject of Syria then. Why don't they go to Iraq/Lebanon/Israel/Egypt etc. Stay in Turkey, head due north to the Caucuses maybe even Russia.....Ukraine, Poland etc. But on the TV today was a story about a young woman with a group trying to get to Sweden.....thru Bulgaria and up.
Israel?? Do you know anything of world politics??? And Ukraine may accept them, but the country is in a spot of bother itself - But Israel? That would be funny if it wasn't so ignorant.fizz47 said:
mikal83 said:
Probably more than you. Please explain why Arabic people cant go to Israel. Arent there Arabic people already there? Western Ukraine. Georgia, huge country with quite a low population density as is Poland, then theres Russia..... Iran is humongous.
I dont know if you are being serious or not?Honestly I am not trying to sound condescending but I think maybe you need to do a little more research on whats happening in the region.
To illustrate the point as a British Passport Holder I caanot enter Israel and then enter into most Arab / Muslim countries on the same passport.
BlackLabel said:
mikal83 said:
You must be on some sort of wanted list, I have been to Egypt and then 8 months later Israel and saw lots of Arabs when there. The Sinai is all but mt, would make a great new city. Japan, how many refugees have they taken in the last 10 yrs. Germany, yes they are taking more than us, now, but its a lot bigger land/population density etc...Spain/france...
Nothing to do with a wanted list (I assume )It's common knowledge that if you have visited Israel many Arab and Muslim countries won't let you in their country if they find out.
article said:
Needless to say, trying to find exact information as to which countries will deny you entrance based upon having an Israeli stamp varies wildly. As one would assume, a country that denies entrance to another country’s citizens based solely on their citizenship is likely not a country with a model bureaucracy staffed with honest, highly-trained personnel who follow strict orders.
However, there does seem to be some consensus as to which countries do restrict access. They are as follows:
Syria
Lebanon
Libya
Kuwait
Iran
Iraq (except the northern Kurdish region)
Sudan
Yemen
There have also been reports of problems entering the following countries:
Saudi Arabia (reportedly not strictly enforced due to pressure by the U.S.)
Malaysia
Pakistan
Algeria
Indonesia
U.A.E.
However, that being said, even a cursory search through Lonely Planet’s thorn tree forum reveals numerous instances of travelers entering the above countries despite having an Israeli stamp — most likely a result of local border guards stamping passports without bothering to spend much time looking through it. Bribes, insistent pleadings, name-dropping and just plain good luck all seemed to have also played a part in travelers getting by these restrictions.
http://www.theexpeditioner.com/2012/03/14/are-you-banned-from-certain-countries-if-you-have-an-israeli-stamp-in-your-passport/However, there does seem to be some consensus as to which countries do restrict access. They are as follows:
Syria
Lebanon
Libya
Kuwait
Iran
Iraq (except the northern Kurdish region)
Sudan
Yemen
There have also been reports of problems entering the following countries:
Saudi Arabia (reportedly not strictly enforced due to pressure by the U.S.)
Malaysia
Pakistan
Algeria
Indonesia
U.A.E.
However, that being said, even a cursory search through Lonely Planet’s thorn tree forum reveals numerous instances of travelers entering the above countries despite having an Israeli stamp — most likely a result of local border guards stamping passports without bothering to spend much time looking through it. Bribes, insistent pleadings, name-dropping and just plain good luck all seemed to have also played a part in travelers getting by these restrictions.
If you are a British passport holder who has visited Israel and wants to then visit say Kuwait the authorities here will issue you with a second passport:
http://pointstobemade.boardingarea.com/2014/03/25/...
It is ludicrous to suggest Syrian refugees will be granted entry to Israel.
davepoth said:
No Bend said:
mikal83 said:
No Bend said:
mikal83 said:
On the subject of Syria then. Why don't they go to Iraq/Lebanon/Israel/Egypt etc. Stay in Turkey, head due north to the Caucuses maybe even Russia.....Ukraine, Poland etc. But on the TV today was a story about a young woman with a group trying to get to Sweden.....thru Bulgaria and up.
Israel?? Do you know anything of world politics??? And Ukraine may accept them, but the country is in a spot of bother itself - But Israel? That would be funny if it wasn't so ignorant.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Isr...
Regardless, as a signatory to the 1951 Convention on Refugees Israel is required to accept anyone with a legitimate asylum claim.
http://www.unhcr.org/3b73b0d63.html
I think you owe him an apology.
Mermaid said:
BMRuss said:
Would interested to know where the £920m we have given Syria in aid (which is more than the rest of Europe put together) actually goes?
The middle east peace envoy probably got a share of that, so he could buy one more house. .
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