Unelected EU commissioner vows to block elected governments
Discussion
In case anyone is on the fence, and even those of you who have made your mind up to vote 'stay' - if you do vote stay, you are voting against democracy:
Juncker vows to use new powers to block the far-right
Before anyone accuses me of being a facist - I do not support, I have never been a member of, I have never voted for a far right party.
Juncker vows to use new powers to block the far-right
Before anyone accuses me of being a facist - I do not support, I have never been a member of, I have never voted for a far right party.
JagLover said:
I guess the obvious question is how are they defining "Far-right"
Is it marching around in jackboots and plotting to invade Poland. Or is it adopting policies that would have been considered centre-right until the last decade or so.
Interesting you mention Poland... http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/16a8f504-bb72-11e5-b151-...Is it marching around in jackboots and plotting to invade Poland. Or is it adopting policies that would have been considered centre-right until the last decade or so.
Europa1 said:
I suspect Mr Juncker is engaging in a bit of macho posturing and being a tad over-simplistic in what the mechanism actually says, and The Times has understandably seized on that.
I didn't realise my earlier FT link wouldn't work - but here's a Yahoo article about the EU threatening Poland too. https://uk.news.yahoo.com/polands-pm-no-risk-eu-sa...
rscott said:
So our Prime Minister is unelected too. I see....
Well, at least Whitney chose him. And at least the UK electorate knew if they voted for their own Tory MP that Cameron would then rule. Not perfect, but a damn sight better than Juncker and his gravy-train cronies. (should that be sherry-train cronies?)
limpsfield said:
Long time lurker , first time poster.
I am struggling to navigate this site, is there anywhere on NPE to discuss the EU as I can't seem to find any threads?
Merci
You don't think that the fact that the unelected eurocrats want to quash democratically elected governments deserves its own thread?I am struggling to navigate this site, is there anywhere on NPE to discuss the EU as I can't seem to find any threads?
Merci
FredClogs said:
I have not real gripe with the way he EU is currently run because I see no real damage or harm that it has done to Europe
Take a look at Greece.
And Spain
And Italy
And Portugal
That these countries are currently functioning is just an illusion. They are being propped up by more and more debt and prevented from failing currently - but eventually the can will prove impossible to kick any further down the road.
Oh, and Ukraine. Let's forget about the EU meddling in Ukraine: http://en.rescue.org.ru/1012_lavrov-eu-admits-its-...
FredClogs said:
It all sounds terribly cliched but Britain being in Europe gives us some real influence over it's direction of travel and the other 440million people in it, including who sits on the commission and who is elected leader of the commission.
Less than 10% of the EU parliament and just one commissioner out of 28. Real influence! We saw what that influence bought when Cameron came scuttling back after 'renegotiating' and achieving nothing. And that was while the EU didn't want to lose us. Imagine how they'll treat us when the EU grows even more and we're firmly stuck in it.
All for being the second biggest donor.
FredClogs said:
Do we? Do we really?
Ok, if that's how you feel then vote out - nobody has a crystal ball. You do realise that most of the countries in the world outside of the EU and North America (a large expansive federal republic) are pretty stty in one way or another?
I do realise that most of them are growing rapidly, but the EU market is the same size as 2006. Ok, if that's how you feel then vote out - nobody has a crystal ball. You do realise that most of the countries in the world outside of the EU and North America (a large expansive federal republic) are pretty stty in one way or another?
Oh, and yes, we're the country with 2nd highest influence in the World: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/t...
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