2nd Referendum please - I don't like how that one panned out

[lionelf]

Petition calling for a second EU referendum crashes because it’s so popular:

http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/24/petition-calling-for...

Would enough people now be thinking "oh sh*t, what have we done?" and vote differently given a 2nd bite at it?

[lionelf]

Playing devils advocate: What if we don't get a good Trade deal from the EU? What if they say that in order to get what WE might consider a fair/good deal then Open Borders to the UK must remain and there would have to be a significant contribution to EU coffers from the UK? Yes we'd be back in 'control' of our own destiny from a democratic point of view but would these changed circumstances be justification for a 2nd referendum?

[lionelf]

Democracy? Meh, it's heavily overrated. Dictatorships are where it's at if you actually wanna get things done.

[lionelf]

turbobloke said:

10 hours ago approx in the Independent:

Dismissing the petition, Prime Minister's spokesperson says another vote is 'not remotely on the cards'

That's THIS Prime Minister though. Another is incoming and may not hold such an absolute view.

I'd struggle to see anyone from the Tory remain camp want to be responsible for pressing the A50 button and thus going down in history as the person who not only took us out but also possibly opened the door to the breakup of the UK.

Boris, Gove or Fox of course should have no such qualms.

A May or Hunt leadership may want to see if there's any wriggle room.

[lionelf]

turbobloke said:

lionelf said:

turbobloke said:

10 hours ago approx in the Independent:

Dismissing the petition, Prime Minister's spokesperson says another vote is 'not remotely on the cards'

That's THIS Prime Minister though. Another is incoming and may not hold such an absolute view.

I'd struggle to see anyone from the Tory remain camp want to be responsible for pressing the A50 button and thus going down in history as the person who not only took us out but also possibly opened the door to the breakup of the UK.

Boris, Gove or Fox of course should have no such qualms.

A May or Hunt leadership may want to see if there's any wriggle room.

Like I said previously, dreaming out loud.

CMD has already pressed the Brexit button, the rest is project management software.

Merkel has pressed the button of no return on the EU side.

Merkel dashes hopes of a second Brexit vote: “No time for wishful thinking”

Reported in Global Investing ~2 hours ago:

https://www.biznews.com/global-investing/2016/06/2...

'Last fragile bubble popped'

(Outloud dreamers' hopes of a second vote) "were dashed yesterday by the 28 country organisation’s de facto leader, German Chancellor Angela Merkel. She is forthright: the UK must take the next logical step after citizens exercised their choice and is urging the 27 countries still in the union to move rapidly to avoid more departures."

"European Union leaders said there could be no turning back for the U.K. after Prime Minister David Cameron used his last EU summit to express disappointment at his failure to win the referendum he called on Britain’s membership."

"As of this evening, I see no way back from the Brexit vote,” German Chancellor Angela Merkel told reporters after the meeting in Brussels on Tuesday. “This is no time for wishful thinking, but rather to grasp reality.”

Wakey Wakey!

So you're saying that politicians don't say one thing and do another a little further down the line?

How very novel.

Must be nice in over there in Honourableshire.