Uber are getting shirty
Discussion
Uber seems to have all kinds of drivers on all kinds of different arrangements.
A few drivers I've spoken to seem to drive for a few companies simultaneously. They might do a shift for some private hire company then do a bit of uber mid shift and then maybe work for someone else another day,
They don't ever to turn up in cars with other companies branding on them so I'm nott sue what the score is really.
I like uber though, especially their cashless payments and use of technology.
A few drivers I've spoken to seem to drive for a few companies simultaneously. They might do a shift for some private hire company then do a bit of uber mid shift and then maybe work for someone else another day,
They don't ever to turn up in cars with other companies branding on them so I'm nott sue what the score is really.
I like uber though, especially their cashless payments and use of technology.
Eric Mc said:
Puggit said:
Uber drivers are not Uber employees 
For non-employees Uber do seem to exercise an awful lot of control over them.don'tbesilly said:
Based on the decision today, I can't see how HMRC can now see them as being anything other than employees of Uber, and not self employed at all.
It's a long time since I was S/employed and things may well have changed, so apologies if I've got this wrong.
Would this now make Uber responsible for deducting tax/NI at source from these drivers, as the decision implies they are now directly employed by Uber, and as such the drivers would now be losing what many see as a perk of being s/employed as they declare their own incomes, and pay tax according to what their own 'accounts' state.
I think that would be true - in return they gain employment rights such as holiday pay and certain protections. Also minimum wage legislation will apply.It's a long time since I was S/employed and things may well have changed, so apologies if I've got this wrong.
Would this now make Uber responsible for deducting tax/NI at source from these drivers, as the decision implies they are now directly employed by Uber, and as such the drivers would now be losing what many see as a perk of being s/employed as they declare their own incomes, and pay tax according to what their own 'accounts' state.
I doubt there are many Uber drivers earning sufficient to benefit a great deal from tax deferral.
My old office in Leeds was next to Uber's regional base. And next door to us both was the English Languafe School.
Unrelated, but I remember Uber changing the fare structure with little notice to the drivers last year. It looked like an angry Islamabad outside, with about 100 gentlemen Uber drivers being egged on chanting, by a man in what looked like robes and trainers stood shouting on a veg box. Surreal worrying and amusing all at the same time. Uber had the shutters down more often after that.
Unrelated, but I remember Uber changing the fare structure with little notice to the drivers last year. It looked like an angry Islamabad outside, with about 100 gentlemen Uber drivers being egged on chanting, by a man in what looked like robes and trainers stood shouting on a veg box. Surreal worrying and amusing all at the same time. Uber had the shutters down more often after that.
kapiteinlangzaam said:
We used Uber for the first time this weekend in Madrid.
It was brilliant.
We made 4 journeys (including to the airport) and every journey was minimum 25% cheaper than a local taxi, and was always in a lovely car.
I for one welcome the arrival of our new Uber overlords.
It was brilliant.
We made 4 journeys (including to the airport) and every journey was minimum 25% cheaper than a local taxi, and was always in a lovely car.
I for one welcome the arrival of our new Uber overlords.
One can only presume that your moral compass is aligned with the very dubious "leader" of that awful organisation.
But never mind; as long as you can save a few €, all's well, eh?
I can't help wonder why Uber's big U.K. Subsidiary only has one director
Seems like an unnecessary risk to me
Uber London https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/0801478...
Seems like an unnecessary risk to me
Uber London https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/0801478...
Is this a first, or have other cities banned or not renewed Uber’s license?
I use uber now and then abroad as the cashless payment and ordering using the app makes it easy.
Talking to the drivers it seems longer established drivers are happier as they pay lower commission to uber but newer drivers aren’t as uber are aparently taking 25% of their fare.
I use uber now and then abroad as the cashless payment and ordering using the app makes it easy.
Talking to the drivers it seems longer established drivers are happier as they pay lower commission to uber but newer drivers aren’t as uber are aparently taking 25% of their fare.
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 22 September 11:28
hyphen said:
Good on London. It was Cameron, Osbourne and their cronies whose support they were relying on, and with them gone and a Labour Mayor TFL can make a stand.Horrible company. I expect lots of lawsuits and they will get it back soon though.
Some customers love it, however they should know once Uber gets its dominance, they will screw them for every penny. Just this week they banned sharing a cab from Heathrow and other popular destinations to make more profit.
There is a place for a uber type company, and healthy competition against black cabs and private hires, but Uber cannot be trusted.
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 22 September 11:21
Let's hope it's just the start, though Uber's MO is to screw the drivers before the passengers as I understand it. Some pretty awful arrangements been made all over the world and a lot of damage done.
But you're probably right;,anything like dominance and fares would go up.
Still, as long as our morally bereft phers can play with their apps and get cheap rides to the airport, for now, who cares?
David87 said:
El stovey said:
Is this a first, or have other cities banned or not renewed Uber’s license?
There was no Uber in Austin, Texas when my wife went there earlier in the year. I'm sure there will be a few others too. Can you get it in China?It is amazing how the latest breed of consumer doesn't give a f
k about where the money ends up as long as they get the convenience. I for one think that a world filled with big brands ruling over everything is a bad one.
There are loads of taxi apps that works just as as well as uber and pay a fair wage.
k about where the money ends up as long as they get the convenience. I for one think that a world filled with big brands ruling over everything is a bad one.There are loads of taxi apps that works just as as well as uber and pay a fair wage.
The Spruce goose said:
It is amazing how the latest breed of consumer doesn't give a fk about where the money ends up as long as they get the convenience. I for one think that a world filled with big brands ruling over everything is a bad one.
There are loads of taxi apps that works just as as well as uber and pay a fair wage.
My local taxi company uses an app just like Uber’s now. It doesn’t work with PayPal though so you have to set up a account with them and obviously it’s only local. k about where the money ends up as long as they get the convenience. I for one think that a world filled with big brands ruling over everything is a bad one.There are loads of taxi apps that works just as as well as uber and pay a fair wage.
That’s the uber attraction though, that you can use it in any country and don’t need cash.
I think uber has made loads of the competition raise their game technology wise. My local taxi company is actually cheaper than uber.
Like a lot of things though, it’s the company that adopts the technology and makes it easy for customers that wins.
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 22 September 11:41
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