Labour Conference....total maddness or even possable ?
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jsf said:
Ridgemont said:
Has he actually practised this speech as his intonation is all over the place, not actually matching the tone? It's as if he is reading it aloud for the first time. That Trump point just dribbled away to nothing.
precisely my view, even ignoring the content the delivery was atrocious.Breadvan72 said:
There is something in that point, but the fact that the EU, a subject that ought to be at best middle ranking in the list of the UK's problems, was allowed to become THE problem that obsessed the nation, and which now threatens to harm the the nation quite severely, was, I suggest, much to do with a Tory party civil war that has been raging for decades.
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Referenda are a popular tool of demagogues, as seen in places like Turkey.
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Referenda are a popular tool of demagogues, as seen in places like Turkey.
The question was demanded to be asked by a large number of the population, the question of the vote was presented in a party manifesto, was presented to parliament, the question was asked, the vote was made.
The case for the vote taking place was well made and passed with 50+ objecting, hardly a "something in it" point.
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and Switzerland ?
Edited by Stickyfinger on Thursday 28th September 13:34
Breadvan72 said:
Welcome back from your flounce, stickyfinger - I hope that it was enjoyable. You appear to be unaware of how politics work in modern democracies with mass media. People become interested in things for various reasons. What people are interested in may or may not be the things that they ought rationally to be most interested in. The agenda for the debate is often set from above. In this way, with the aid of media and some business interests who do not like regulation, the obsession of the Tory right with the EU became a national talking point. People were persuaded to be more bothered by something that has relatively small impact on their lives than by other things which affect them more.
I am pleased to see you are at least pretending to interact with some semblance (some) of decency and respect for others. FYI, flounce was not really the action, it was to prevent me being sanctioned by the mods for the response to your snide style and ( excuse my plain speaking), but f
king rude manner.I am fine with my understanding of politics and do not really need any education on the matter, I will consider your views however.
oops, you have fallen over again, "People" ?
I take it this word is your way of dismissing everybody other than your correct self, am I correct ?
Edited by Stickyfinger on Thursday 28th September 13:48
Edited by Stickyfinger on Thursday 28th September 13:59
Zod said:
I have to agree with this, although I would still prefer the May mess over the Corbyn mess. Please, someone, deliver us from these alternatives!
What "mess" has May got herself into ? and just how do you manage to compare May's actions/policys with those proposed by Corbyn and his crew of mad Marxists ?Edited by Stickyfinger on Thursday 28th September 20:34
BigMon said:
Stickyfinger said:
Try.....give me the giggles please.
it may (
) not be a popular thing to say but I have few problems with Mrs May, especially true if you consider the alternatives.
Christ almighty, you honestly think May is doing a good job?it may (
) not be a popular thing to say but I have few problems with Mrs May, especially true if you consider the alternatives.About the best thing that can be said for her is she isn't Corbyn.
How about wasting millions on an unneeded election, running one of the worst campaigns in living memory, losing a majority then having to spunk up a fortune to get into bed with a bunch of bigots in order to form a majority government.
Yep, she's doing marvellously.
Dead woman walking.
Breadvan72 said:
Stickyfinger said:
...I am pleased to see you are at least pretending to interact with some semblance (some) of decency and respect for others.
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Ha! This from the poster who, when teased about his or her rubbish spelling, calls the teaser a "prick" and does a flouncy. Comedy value: 7/10....
As I just told you , I withdrew for a bit as I did not want a ban for talking to you in a manner maybe others should and that you richly deserve. Your thoughts on me, my speed typing skills or any other meaningless thought is irrelevant.
Edited by Stickyfinger on Friday 29th September 14:30
jjlynn27 said:
Mothersruin said:
It hasn't failed him.
He's minted.
You think he gives a fk if it works for anyone else?
This. Just like a Farage, he's a conman. A cheap trickster. I doubt that he actually believes in anything. He's minted.
You think he gives a f
k if it works for anyone else?Breadvan72 said:
Lord Heavens above! Now I can stave off eviction for another month and get little Dorothy her rickets medicine! It'll be cabbage for dinner, cabbage I tell you! That'll teach me to be an envyin' of me betters! Me, I know moi place, me.
[95% of NPE's vision of happy Britain, circa 2020]
Or just consume that julienne of potato on your acromioclavicular joint ?[95% of NPE's vision of happy Britain, circa 2020]
Only about one generation before mine the ability to buy a house was very limited, why is home ownership seem as a right for generations to come ?
Massive price rises in property value cannot go on for ever.
It is not the case in many advanced nations where renting is very much a more common form of housing across a wide range of age groups.
Maybe the new generations will need to change their expectations ?
Massive price rises in property value cannot go on for ever.
It is not the case in many advanced nations where renting is very much a more common form of housing across a wide range of age groups.
Maybe the new generations will need to change their expectations ?
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