Mandalay Bay shooting

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Multiple shooters with automatic weapons at the Mandalay Bay resort in Las Vegas


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41466116

Video (from a nearby concert, gunshots heard in the distance)
https://twitter.com/gilbertmacias/status/914734582...

Pretty terrifying to hear, hope all safe

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gadgetmac said:

Yes I do. Old aged relatives not knowing how they'll get home is FAR more important to me and others than some EVERYDAY occurence in the US.

1 - as far as I am aware the CAA has arranged repatriation flights for all Monarch customers, with no need to curtail holidays etc
2 - significant numbers of British people go on holiday to Las Vegas each year

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rscott said:

paul789 said:

fk - 20+ dead.

Where does that figure come from? AP & Reuters are reporting 'at least 2'

Press Association citing police https://twitter.com/pa/status/914771626289500160

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Amazed to find automatic weapons aren’t illegal in the USA. I thought, outside the armed forces/police, they were completely banned.

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hairykrishna said:

They are apart from ones registered pre 1986 and grandfathered in.

So they’re illegal, apart from the ones which are legal? Got it.

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ultraweasel said:

I am, however, irritated by the MSM's continuing misleading claims that legal "full auto assault weapons" are "easily available". They are *not*:
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So, to summarise; in the US, you cannot 'pop down' to the local Walmart and purchase a "fully automatic assault weapon" along with your groceries!

So in summary if you are suitably motivated, have enough cash, and live in a relevant State, you can own a fully automatic rifle. Good to know you could even place it into a Trust!

The American people are obviously comfortable with all this, so they should equally be comfortable that these sorts of incidents happen, or in one year more people are killed in the US than that country lost in the entirety of the Iraq war (BBC)

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It’s true, most people in the UK don’t understand why you’d need a handgun for personal protection, why you’d need a semiautomatic magazine fed rifle to kill deer for sport, or why you’d need to keep arms to defend yourself against your own government, who after all, have cruise missiles and Predator drones.

We can look at the US and say, “thank god we don’t live like that”.

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Apparently he had 18 rifles in the hotel room and 16 more at home!

Are you even able to own that many, in Nevada, legally? Am assuming rifle means AR-15 or similar, not bolt action stuff

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rxe said:

Unless our checks are magically better than theirs, I don't think so. If I were so minded, I could walk into my office with a 7.62 rifle and open fire on London Bridge at 8:30 in the morning. No one would see me with the gun, I wouldn't need to smash a window, I could easily carry the gun and 300 rounds on the tube and into the building where I work.

How many rounds could you shoot with your bolt-action rifle before someone shot you?
vs. a semi-automatic/magazine fed AR-15

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Doesn't seem a massive hardship to keep it at a 'home' club and go and pick it up for the yearly trip to Bisley

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Probably the noise echoing off the many high buildings in the Strip

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JLC25 said:

The one thing I still can't get my head around is the lack of a central database. Every enquiry should require identification and info on the enquiry. Every purchase should be logged and inventoried. Including ammunition. Before every purchase the database should be searched for previous purchases with times, dates, locations. I'm not saying a "Computer says no system" but certainly linked up with authorities etc. so they are aware. Maybe people will second guess building armories like this guy, maybe not, but no one knows if no one tries.

That’s a massive no-no for the gun nuts, because then the government knows who has the guns and will know who to eliminate first :tinfoil: