Brits who fight for ISIS - kill 'em says MP
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Nearly all Britons who join Islamic State should be killed he says.
Bet some types are choking on their cornflakes reading that.
Nearly all Britons who join Islamic State should be killed he says.
Bet some types are choking on their cornflakes reading that.
crankedup said:
Labour MP appearing on Daily Politics today, reckons what has been said is wrong! She said that people may go over but not fight, they may change thier minds. Basically coming up with loads of bullshine defending the poor little innocents who are misguided. Daily Politics second guest, Tory MP Mercer, soon put her right by pointing out such details like sifting out the chaff and identify those that fight and kill Western soldiers, the ones worth targeting
Explaining how tough it is to get permission to target and kill an enemy of the UK. Listening to the Labour MP spouting her pov was truely a worrisome moment, and I again considered the magnitude of damage Labour would inflict should they ever take Office.
Preet GillExplaining how tough it is to get permission to target and kill an enemy of the UK. Listening to the Labour MP spouting her pov was truely a worrisome moment, and I again considered the magnitude of damage Labour would inflict should they ever take Office.
JagLover said:
Now mentioned twice on this thread.
I am aware of a UK government campaign to stop people joining ISIS but not aware of any similar campaign to "encourage fighters to go to the Middle east", perhaps you would like to provide examples.
As to the subject of the OP. Those who join ISIS have joined an armed group opposed to the west. Those proved to be members should be locked up upon their return. Those still in the field should be killed with impunity.
The fact that Labour seems to have difficulty properly condemning them tells you a great deal about the moral equivalency in which they place such extreme groups and the west.
Isn't there some fairly compelling evidence that assisted an Islamic insurgency against Gaddafi?I am aware of a UK government campaign to stop people joining ISIS but not aware of any similar campaign to "encourage fighters to go to the Middle east", perhaps you would like to provide examples.
As to the subject of the OP. Those who join ISIS have joined an armed group opposed to the west. Those proved to be members should be locked up upon their return. Those still in the field should be killed with impunity.
The fact that Labour seems to have difficulty properly condemning them tells you a great deal about the moral equivalency in which they place such extreme groups and the west.
One of those we helped came back and bombed Manchester arena.
It may be recalled that the US funded and supported the groups that spawned the Taliban and Al Qeda in order to p
s off Russia. Ironically, Russia now backs the Taliban in order to ps off the US. The complex of alliances and enmities across the near and middle east can make your head explode.
Even without positive support for Jihadi groups by western powers, the ill thought out interventions in Iraq and Libya laid the ground for groups such as IS to grow.
s off Russia. Ironically, Russia now backs the Taliban in order to ps off the US. The complex of alliances and enmities across the near and middle east can make your head explode.Even without positive support for Jihadi groups by western powers, the ill thought out interventions in Iraq and Libya laid the ground for groups such as IS to grow.
Sa Calobra said:
Looking at it in a logical way. If they chose to fight for a regular army that aim to adhere to the Geneva Convention and prisoner/fair treatment then you can see that any returning fighters still hold certain shared values.
Joining an organization that commits atrocities both in the field and back in their home country, how do you treat them?
Give them a flat in Tower Hamlets ?Joining an organization that commits atrocities both in the field and back in their home country, how do you treat them?
Stedman said:
A staggering large % of them die out 'there'; ISIS use foreign nationals as cannon fodder. Worry about the very few that may come back and worry more about the UK nationals groomed here to carry out terrorism.
Or just kill 'em
I saw a report that most of the Brits got stuck on rear echelon guard duties. They did not have the training to be front line troops. Or just kill 'em
Breadvan72 said:
Stedman said:
A staggering large % of them die out 'there'; ISIS use foreign nationals as cannon fodder. Worry about the very few that may come back and worry more about the UK nationals groomed here to carry out terrorism.
Or just kill 'em
I saw a report that most of the Brits got stuck on rear echelon guard duties. They did not have the training to be front line troops. Or just kill 'em
PRTVR said:
V8 Fettler said:
The returning religionists should be incarcerated in camps and deradicalised via the medium of wine, women and song. We could call these camps "Butlins".
I believe torture is banned by the Geneva convention. 
Not sure how the marketing will be done for the “ 72 Virgins Weekender ”
IS has no legal personality and cannot sue. Recognising IS as a state would be a very bad idea (and just what IS would wish for). The person who would have a legal complaint about being rendered stateless would be an individual. The hypothetical here is a British IS supporter seeking to return to the UK, not one who is staying out in the supposed state (wherever it now is)
You don't create a state just by saying that it exists. If I declare UDI for my living room, that doesn't make it a state.
You don't create a state just by saying that it exists. If I declare UDI for my living room, that doesn't make it a state.
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 14th November 13:12
OK, so legal rights should be based on whatever someone imagines. Great idea! I killed my mum but I imagine that I didn't so that's OK. I didn't pay for my dinner at Chez Scoffs but I imagined that I did so that's OK.
What if someone rocks up at the border and says that he has an imaginary visa or an imaginary diplomatic passport? Wave him through?
What if someone rocks up at the border and says that he has an imaginary visa or an imaginary diplomatic passport? Wave him through?
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