Macron and Calais

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Murph7355

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Wednesday 17th January 2018
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Heard on the news this morning that Macron thinks the UK should pay more and do more about the migrant situation in Calais...

I'm obviously a little partisan, but how about Macron does something about his other borders so that people don't get the opportunity to congregate in Calais?

Also found it amusing that he sees himself as the driving force in the EU now Merkel is busy at home. Never took him as the next de Gaulle. So much for him being different.

Murph7355

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Wednesday 17th January 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Clue: Schengen

France doesn't have any land borders to do anything about.
France very much still has land borders. As a result of Schengen it is delegating its responsibilities to the outer boundary nations of the Schengen zone.

That is not the UK's issue. We used our opt out for Schengen, so why should we be picking up any of the tab for the Calais issue? It very much seems a case of despite us having an opt out, we still pick up the tab. A good result of being members, no?

We are geographically very fortunate. France and the Schengen countries should be dealing with it. We know they are incapable, but that is not our issue.

If France don't like what is happening in Calais, they should be reconsidering their Schengen membership, or getting the outer border states to sort it (good luck with that while Merkel is in charge).

Murph7355

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Thursday 18th January 2018
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Jockman said:
Eddie Strohacker said:
Jockman said:
Don’t upset him Mutph. We may lose the tapestry!!!
I like that Macron is trolling us with the loan of the Bayeux tapestry & it's flying over so many heads in the most delightful way.
The symbolism seems to have escaped most.

How would you reciprocate, Eddie?
We could send him a gallery's worth of photos of the French WW2 fleet and an early edition of the OED.

(Edited to add - for academic and cultural purposes of course)

Edited by Murph7355 on Thursday 18th January 08:32