Alysha Macphail- 6 yr old missing on Scottish Island

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5912251/Th...

Sadly found dead only a few hours after going missing from top floor flat of her grandparents on a "remote" Scottish Island, in the grounds of an abandoned hotel, some 20 mins walk away.

A very tragic case, but just all sounds a bit odd, how the article is written, like they know something they can't write?

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Still, the way this is being reported is a little odd. Not being pushed as a big story at all, but mention of here school being "where her mother lived". Not where the "family" lived?

You'd think the thought of a child murderer on the loose on a Scottish Island would have Kay Burley and the Sky News Helicopter up there 24 hours a day.
I suspect more is known about this than they are letting on. Police appealing for people who assisted in the search to come forward to let them know what they "saw and heard"? Very odd

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AbzGuyGTI said:

Yeah agree with something being not quite right...! It's quite big news a 6 yo girl being murdered but yet not much in the news or what has happened.
The police are being very cagey on replies to the questions being asked so i think they must know more than they are saying until i guess they have more evidence.

Family related? Has to be what they think, surely?

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dromond said:

Syrian?. They put a bunch of them on Bute. Whoever it was I think there is a high chance of being caught, Bute is not
a massive place, and you can rest assured once in prison their life is going to be a true hell on earth, rightfully so.

st, really?


Blimey, if that is their thinking, it's surprising it has not been reported yet.

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ReaperCushions said:

Also, her name in the thread title is incorrect. Maybe a bit more respectful if that is corrected.

It was as was being reported at the time the thread was started. It is still being reported as different spellings of both first and second names in the press, even by the same newspapers!
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Can we move on the Syrian debate. From the name that is being banded about, it's unlikely he's from Syria unless he's paid his £25 to Deed Poll!

I see Police have mentioned keeping doors locked etc, I wonder if this is some aspect of life on Bute, (ie you can leave your front door open), or something to do with the heatwave we have the moment, ie doors and windows open to cool down?


Horrific. That poor little girl. And if this lad has done it, I wish him years of pain, suffering and bad health.

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tangerine_sedge said:

This thread illustrates everything which is sick and twisted about N,P&E. The introduction of race/islam early into the thread and then some perverse inverted virtue signalling, i.e. how much punishment can we inflict on the accused?

Well, if he has done it, what would you like to see happen to him?

At 16, it's most likely he has contributed absolutely nothing to our society and if he has done this, it's likely he wont contribute the slightest thing going forward.

We don't have the death penalty, of course, but I can quite understand that people think perpetrators of such crimes should be wiped off the face of the planet.

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What a lovely bunch

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Wrathalanche said:

Keep in mind that the only reason there is a story about the dad's girlfriend being involved is because the boy has lodged a special defence of Incrimination. Its essentially a counter-accusation that he's making, presumably without any physical evidence other than the original discovery, to introduce some level of doubt to the jury.

The Crown is unlikely to have much to debunk this completely, as they will not have been aware of the nature of the counter-accusation. The girlfriend didn't even know she was being accused until the trial started on Monday. But if you consider the case that the crown is trying to prove, and the sum of the physical evidence they must have held to be able to bring this to court, I think its unlikely that this Incrimination Defence will go anywhere. I'm highly suspicious of this new version of events. It sounds like the kind of far-fetched nonsense a 16 year old stoner might come up with when faced with these charges.

For posters who would turn on the family because of their perceived socio-economic position or the first bit of mud slung, I think you should be ashamed. The dad is 26, and has had to go through all this, and the court is being turned into a circus by this defence. Who cares what he wears to court? Surely he gets a pass to do whatever he likes given what has happened to him.

A 24 year old dealer who subjects his daughter to an environment and lifestyle to allow one of his druggy customers to abduct, rape, torture and kill her.....I think i'll save my sympathy for someone else, so no shame here, not even a little bit.

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type-r said:

Talking about lazy stereotypes, it might just be me but I don't remember any Syrians starring in the Wicker Man.

Syrians?

The name of the alleged perp is now withheld, but wasn't at the time of his arrest. Name doesn't sound like he is Syrian! Although if you are referring to the Syrian connection to the Isle of Bute, then I get ya!

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matchmaker said:

Bute is not exactly a hotbed of crime. It is (or was last time I was there) a nice little island.

That's exactly my point. Beautiful little place, but these people turn their little bit of it into a sthole by dealing drugs, getting pissed up and living and behaving in a way that the rest of the Island does not.
As another has said, this defence may be an outrageous fabrication, but from what little has been reported so far, it sadly sounds vaguely plausible, because of the lives they appear to lead.
Normal people, thankfully, don't behave like that or live their lives that way. Someone mentioned that they are being treated like sub humans. I don't think they are treated that way, but I suspect they behave in such a manner. Sub humans, no, underclass, IMHO, absolutely.

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Wrathalanche said:

That "environment" was his parent's house on sleepy little Bute. I haven't seen anything that suggests she was "subjected" to anything untoward before he night she was killed. Any connection made between her death and how her father made his money is just speculation on your part.

I'll never understand the position that her family doesn't deserve sympathy, that they are somehow sub-human. That kind of judgement should be withheld for the person who commits the horrific crime itself.

No, "the environment", was a part time life with a drug dealer dad / stepmum, who associated with the sort of people that is alleged to have perpetrated this crime. A 16 year old schoolboy, (16 ffs!) out in the middle of the night, "buying drugs" from the dad/ stepmum, who's own mother shops him to cops after recovering from a drinking session. Dad's up on domestic assault charges now too.
I'm just waiting for them to trot out the pitbull cross to complete the stereotype....

Poor girl should not have been anywhere near the place or those people. She was 6 fking years old FFS, and has no say in the matter. Kids have rights, and she had a right to be raised in a safe environment. Not one where there's drugs being dealt, drugs being used, kept around her, and not when there are comings and goings all day and night with scumbag druggies in and out of the place. It was her RIGHT to not be in that situation. But they don't give two sts about the poor kid, so long as they can buy and sell their shyte and live their lives how they want to, as the illegal underclass they are. It sickens me to think that anyone can excuse or accept that a kid should be forced to live like that. It is absolutely not ok.

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In the right type of prison, he will do well to make it 3 months I reckon.

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PurpleTurtle said:

Whilst any reduction is disappointing, this PoS will still be doing a minimum of 24 years bird, and then has to convince the Parole Board that he is safe to be freed. I had feared a reduction to about 10 years.

Let's hope every days of those 24 years is long and miserable.

But the thought he could be out in his early 40's sits ill with me.

Fingers crossed it never happens...………..