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Vote Leave 'broke electoral law', says Electoral Commission http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44856992
Does this present an opportunity for us to try again and un-screw ourselves..?
Does this present an opportunity for us to try again and un-screw ourselves..?
Sheets Tabuer said:
If they do run it again they should make it compulsory to vote so no one can have a whinge afterwards.
Apart from the two f
kwits I work with where one voted leave to restart the empire and the other because he thought too many people would vote to stay and he didn't really mean it, those two fecks should not be allowed a vote.
Agreed. Apart from the two f
kwits I work with where one voted leave to restart the empire and the other because he thought too many people would vote to stay and he didn't really mean it, those two fecks should not be allowed a vote.My saddeningly racist parents in law who voted to “get rid of all the bloody blacks” should also have their vote removed.
irocfan said:
schmalex said:
My saddeningly racist parents in law who voted to “get rid of all the bloody blacks” should also have their vote removed.
so they voted to stay then?“We’re voting to leave so that we can control all our own borders and stop those Europeans from letting all the bloody blacks in”
When we gently explained that, aside from trashing the British economy for the foreseeable future, leaving the EU would have very little impact on non-EU immigration, yet limit the chances of their grandson being able to be mobile and work freely throughout the EU, they dismissed it with “well, he’s well educated so any country would welcome him. Anyway, we were much better when we were on our own before”.
These people are 88 years old. They won’t live to see the consequences of their un joined-up thinking.
gooner1 said:
schmalex said:
Enlighten me. Which facts do you refer to?
How, if they have the skills demanded from an EU employer,would it limit a UK job applicants chances?
As a result, in time, you may need a visa or work permit to work in these countries, which may make securing a job in the EU less straightforward than it is currently.
It’s still a restriction of choice that isn’t there today.
It’s not just baristas or fruit pickers or other unskilled jobs, though. He could be a mechanic or an accountant or an estate agent - all professions which are abundantly available locally that he could well find he’s restricted from or is a less competitive hire.
Today, he has equal opportunity to get jobs on merit. Tomorrow, he won’t.
In an increasingly small and competitive world, just this little thing will put our children into the workplace with one arm tied behind their back
It’s not just baristas or fruit pickers or other unskilled jobs, though. He could be a mechanic or an accountant or an estate agent - all professions which are abundantly available locally that he could well find he’s restricted from or is a less competitive hire.
Today, he has equal opportunity to get jobs on merit. Tomorrow, he won’t.
In an increasingly small and competitive world, just this little thing will put our children into the workplace with one arm tied behind their back
Edited by schmalex on Tuesday 17th July 21:24
I too work internationally and have held meetings in Asia, US and Europe over the last month or so. However, I don’t live in any of those places. I move about freely either on a short term business visa or tourist entry. That won’t change post Brexit.
It’s easy to get a work visa to nip in and out for business meetings, trade shows and the like, but it’s a completely different kettle of fish to apply for a residential working visa.
It’s easy to get a work visa to nip in and out for business meetings, trade shows and the like, but it’s a completely different kettle of fish to apply for a residential working visa.
Edited by schmalex on Tuesday 17th July 21:35
No. Truth is no-one knows what will happen. Best case it remains the same (but then that undermines a good 50% of the basis of the brexit campaign). Worst case, the EU throw up barriers a la US / Aus etc. Reality is probably somewhere in the middle, which is still a net negative when compared to freedom of movement through the EU today
Not a great position to put our current and future generations in, is it?
Not a great position to put our current and future generations in, is it?
texaxile said:
schmalex said:
Still waiting...
In typical remainer style you tried to manipulate my answer to try and suit your needs. I changed my quote - or if you prefer reworded my answer to make it clear to you before you replied, as my previous reply I felt was not clear and could be misconstrued as you correctly pointed out, hence my delay in response now. I'm sorry that I don't actually work to your timescale of demands, as I have some other stuff to do, like put my kids to bed and cannot respond on a minute by minute basis.I find it odd that you belittle the response from your "in laws" because despite all your seemingly comprehensive knowledge of how the UK will turn out financially due to brexit, you try to score points by highlighting a "verbatim" response which is actually factual, regardless of the fact that it doesn't sit comfortably with your personal views.
My wife was a refugee, she came from Vietnam to the Philippines as a "boat refugee", got an education and settled here in the UK and currently works for the NHS as a Matron. The comment regarding your Son as having been educated rings true because people who are genuinely well qualified within their field will get jobs elsewhere. That is a "fact" I was referring to.
That, along with the "fact" that prior to becoming stangled by the EU dicatatorial rules, we , as a Country were doing pretty well. We managed to get a Welfare state without the EU's help, which ironically is exploited by the very same economic migrants that you are so keen to champion.
apologies for any spelling mistakes, i'm trying to type this wearing my wifes glasses.
Edited by texaxile on Tuesday 17th July 22:09
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