Another MP Accused of lying about speeding ticket.
Discussion
julian64 said:
Why is there a massive thread on this? Why are you lot so keen for her to have life/career changing repercussions for this
PCOJ is a joke most of the time, but especially so when used to apply the full force of the law on a trivial speeding ticket. It makes me ashamed to be British, and I view it in the same way the law deals with journalists in the UAE.
I think it’s fair enough to expect those who are paid to make and implement the laws that others must abide by to abide by them themselves. PCOJ is a joke most of the time, but especially so when used to apply the full force of the law on a trivial speeding ticket. It makes me ashamed to be British, and I view it in the same way the law deals with journalists in the UAE.
And to be exceptionally punished should they abuse them and their positions.
saaby93 said:
REALIST123 said:
julian64 said:
Why is there a massive thread on this? Why are you lot so keen for her to have life/career changing repercussions for this
PCOJ is a joke most of the time, but especially so when used to apply the full force of the law on a trivial speeding ticket. It makes me ashamed to be British, and I view it in the same way the law deals with journalists in the UAE.
I think it’s fair enough to expect those who are paid to make and implement the laws that others must abide by to abide by them themselves. PCOJ is a joke most of the time, but especially so when used to apply the full force of the law on a trivial speeding ticket. It makes me ashamed to be British, and I view it in the same way the law deals with journalists in the UAE.
And to be exceptionally punished should they abuse them and their positions.
How difficult is it to get a dozen people to agree on something.
saaby93 said:
REALIST123 said:
saaby93 said:
REALIST123 said:
julian64 said:
Why is there a massive thread on this? Why are you lot so keen for her to have life/career changing repercussions for this
PCOJ is a joke most of the time, but especially so when used to apply the full force of the law on a trivial speeding ticket. It makes me ashamed to be British, and I view it in the same way the law deals with journalists in the UAE.
I think it’s fair enough to expect those who are paid to make and implement the laws that others must abide by to abide by them themselves. PCOJ is a joke most of the time, but especially so when used to apply the full force of the law on a trivial speeding ticket. It makes me ashamed to be British, and I view it in the same way the law deals with journalists in the UAE.
And to be exceptionally punished should they abuse them and their positions.
How difficult is it to get a dozen people to agree on something.
saaby93 said:
Sheepshanks said:
The trouble is she gives a wide range of people a reason to let her off.
She can only be 'let off' if she's done itAt least the Beeb have prefaced the prosecutions claim with 'alleged' this time
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshi...
When do we start taking bets on how round 2 turns out?
Laughable.
saaby93 said:
REALIST123 said:
I don’t think there’s any doubt that she did it. She admits she did it. It’s just she’s trying to excuse what she did.
Laughable.
What has she admitted to Laughable.
Seeing the form.
Not completing the form.
Allowing the form to be completed by someone else, naming yet another person.
Lying about who was the driver.
Her excuse is that she made false assumptions and was ignorant of the law, both pretty lame excuses, especially for an MP Lawyer.
saaby93 said:
REALIST123 said:
I don’t think there’s any doubt that she did it. She admits she did it. It’s just she’s trying to excuse what she did.
Laughable.
What has she admitted to Laughable.
Seeing the form.
Not completing the form.
Allowing the form to be completed by someone else, naming yet another person.
Lying about who was the driver.
Her excuse is that she made false assumptions and was ignorant of the law, both pretty lame excuses, especially for an MP Lawyer.
ashleyman said:
JNW1 said:
ashleyman said:
I don't have an issue with it at all.
I'm just saying her case is very different to the others being tried in that particular court because the others have actual victims - wether that be the people who were killed, abused or their families. Her case does not technically have a victim unless you consider the law/government to be the victim.
Her speeding was petty and I understand the case is not about the speeding I was just highlighting the point that her trial for PCOJ shows just how serious things can get for even petty, victimless offences like speeding.
It just blows my mind a little that something like speeding can snowball into you being tried in one of the highest courts of the land alongside terrorists, murderers and rapists! There is a little bit inside me that thinks, whats the point? She was speeding, nobody got hurt, get on with it.
Initially she was only speeding but that's not the offence for which she's ended-up in court and on trial; I guess the argument will be if she'd just gone on a SAC - or taken the points and a fine if she wasn't eligible for one of those - she could have just got on with it! I'm just saying her case is very different to the others being tried in that particular court because the others have actual victims - wether that be the people who were killed, abused or their families. Her case does not technically have a victim unless you consider the law/government to be the victim.
Her speeding was petty and I understand the case is not about the speeding I was just highlighting the point that her trial for PCOJ shows just how serious things can get for even petty, victimless offences like speeding.
It just blows my mind a little that something like speeding can snowball into you being tried in one of the highest courts of the land alongside terrorists, murderers and rapists! There is a little bit inside me that thinks, whats the point? She was speeding, nobody got hurt, get on with it.
It is however "interesting" that resources can invariably be found to follow-up anything speeding related - and as in this case turn it into a much more serious charge - whereas it seems much more problematic for many other offences (even though those offences often do have a victim); funny old world sometimes......
saaby93 said:
poo at Paul's said:
She will get off make no mistake.
and that's the problem with the systemEven if someone is innocent there'll still be a number of people that think she 'got off or 'got away with'
It's not been decided yet so we dont yet know remain innocent or found guilty
WinstonWolf said:
That has cheered me right upCould both she and her brother (who pleaded guilty on three counts at a previous hearing) be sent to prison? Please let that happen.
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 19th December 15:49
Derek Smith said:
Whilst she will probably go to prison, and I can see and understand the reason, it’s rather pointless I think. She’s no threat to the public. She’s taking up a spot that could be used for an extended sentence on a rapist or burglar.
I can't say I'm sorry if the appearance of arrogance that has come through is correct.
Get her in the big house asapI can't say I'm sorry if the appearance of arrogance that has come through is correct.
Roofless Toothless said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
Can we send her a welcome to your new home Card. Will she be allowed to hold her Surgeries from behind bars .Maybe the reason for Corbyn saying "stupid woman" was because someone whispered in his ear "she has been found guilty".
Which, of course, would be equally mysogenistic.98elise said:
AJL308 said:
Rovinghawk said:
Is PtCoJ sufficient that her solicitor career is on the rocks too?
Without any question She's fked!Her current job (assuming she resigns)
Her chosen career (struck off)
The chance of another career (who would employ a famous criminal)
All to avoid a small speeding fine that most of the population will guilty of at some point. No stigma or shame, just a small fine (or even a course).
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