Man stabbed for his Focus RS

[Blue Oval84]

I did try searching to see if there's a thread already running but couldn't find it.

Obviously a very unusual occurrence but in the unlikely event I ever find someone mid-theft of my vehicle I honestly think they're welcome to it. Crawling to a nearby cafe with a stab wound to the chest seems an undesireable outcome.

I've no doubt there'll be a few on here who would have dominated the pavement or something but I just don't think a car is worth the risk...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6615879/C...

[Blue Oval84]

The car was parked at the time and the victim returned to find the scrote in mid-theft.

It could be as simple as he broke the window, reached in and unlocked, although most likely there's a less crude method of entry than that.

[Blue Oval84]

Vanden Saab said:

Welshbeef said:

Shot that’s horrific.

I’d not stop anyone in progress of nicking my car or anyone else’s. You never know how someone who’s adrenaline is pumping off his face on drugs will react.

FTFY

Very unlikely.

The average thief using a key cloner or similar to steal a Focus RS is unlikely to be off their face on smack at the time. I think you're confusing modern car thieves with junkies stealing a block of cheese and a bottle of Vodka from their local Happy Shopper.

The type of people that take these cars will generally either be using them to commit another serious crime, or will have them whisked away to a chop shop or container somewhere very quickly.

[Blue Oval84]

jakesmith said:

Serious questions please:
1) What is the block of cheese needed for
2) Are Happy Shoppers actually still going?

1) Apparently it's one of the most shop lifted items. I saw it on one of those fly-on-the-wall shows so it MUST be true. Something about them being easy to nick, easy to sell on and more expensive than say, a box of cereal relative to it's size.

2) God knows, I tend to stick to Aldi now.

[Blue Oval84]

Vanden Saab said:

Blue Oval84 said:

Vanden Saab said:

Welshbeef said:

Shot that’s horrific.

I’d not stop anyone in progress of nicking my car or anyone else’s. You never know how someone who’s adrenaline is pumping off his face on drugs will react.

FTFY

Very unlikely.

The average thief using a key cloner or similar to steal a Focus RS is unlikely to be off their face on smack at the time. I think you're confusing modern car thieves with junkies stealing a block of cheese and a bottle of Vodka from their local Happy Shopper.

The type of people that take these cars will generally either be using them to commit another serious crime, or will have them whisked away to a chop shop or container somewhere very quickly.

You mentioned smack and junkies not me...I said drugs.

I don't suppose it desperately matters, but what did you mean? I can't think of many drugs that you'd get "off your face on" and still be in a state to go out and nick a car?

To be fair, even the smack head junkies I discussed are probably not off their face when they rob the local shop, that is after all the reason why they're robbing the local shop! Therefore I'd imagine a professional car thief stealing to order, or stealing to prepare a getaway vehicle for their next crime is hardly likely to be on anything particularly heavy at the time of the crime.

[Blue Oval84]

garagewidow said:

Re the first para,

It still doesn't explain why some young black youths(men) take a knife out with them with possible intent to commit a crime and then stab someone without a care if they survive it or not.
I know if I was in that position through lack of employment or financial stability I just wouldn't think to do that sort of act.

Surely the main driver for people doing that (regardless of their racial background, there's plenty of white people get stabby too) is their affiliation with gangs. There are parts of London where if you are recognised as being from a different postcode you can be stabbed to death by rivals in the street.

Ultimately underpinning a lot of the gang warfare on the streets, will be the drugs market and the battles for control of the lucrative earnings it offers. If as a nation we want to pull the rug out from under a lot of the gangs, we need to take a long hard look at our drugs policies. That wouldn't solve it all, as clearly people who go around robbing cars are still going to go tooled up, but it would (I believe) cut crime massively.

[Blue Oval84]

Ahbefive said:

What is fundamentally correct though is that statistically you are more likely to get stabbed by a black man,

Is it?

Is it not the case that a black person is statistically more likely to be stabbed by a black person? For a white person does that remain true? I'd be doubtful, when you consider the amount of white people stabbed by their white partner, or a white member of a rival gang, or a white scumbag from their own (white) neighbourhood.

[Blue Oval84]

Ahbefive said:

It seems that you don't see it as any sort of cultural problem or problem at all and would rather try to shut the conversation down.

That's really not true at all if you understand what he's saying. He's saying that just linking "black = stabby" is too basic, and to really understand the drivers you need to look a lot deeper into the statistics and the causal factors. Once you understand those, you can start tackling the actual root cause.

[Blue Oval84]

andymc said:

we need more Police, simple as that

I don't disagree with that, but to a large extent, they only treat the symptoms. America has far more Police per head of population than we do but I don't believe that their crime rate is lower.

here are some much more fundamental societal changes required to cut out swathes of violent crime.

[Blue Oval84]

Dindoit said:

Thesprucegoose said:

Dindoit said:

2016 there were 11 murders in Lincs (inc 2 in Boston) which is 15 murders per million inhabitants. In London there were 110, aka 13/mil.

Statistically Lincolnshire is less safe than London.

that sounds like the biggest load of daily mail tripe known to man, and 30 seconds of googling backs it up, please try to use a source other than that odious publication, where facts don't matter.

I have never and will never used DM. Info came from the following sources.

Lincs murders provided by police as part of fom request https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/murders_per...
Lincs population http://www.research-lincs.org.uk/idoc-Population-T...

London murders https://www.statista.com/statistics/862984/murders...
London population https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgove...

Next time spend more than 30 seconds googling before dismissing it as tripe

Taxi for TheSpruceGoose



Anyway, back to the original point of this thread... it's a while since we've heard about any PH'ers "dominating the stairs", someone must have some good new tales to tell on top of the ones already shared?