Cannabis safety report

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Cannabis safety - also see links in article:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-47215806

At least there’s some sense out there!

The depression is probably the reality that hits them that their peers are motivated, coherent and not off with the fairies.

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P-Jay said:

I don’t think anyone thought letting children take drugs was a good idea before this report?

Probably not, but most users start young and claim it’s everyone else’s fault they’re unemployable.

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Derek Smith said:

V6 Pushfit said:

Probably not, but most users start young and claim it’s everyone else’s fault they’re unemployable.

The use of the word most needs support.

Only for the naive

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designforlife said:

Legalising would pretty much fix the NHS, the revenue generated from taxation would be huge.... California brought in $93 million in taxes on legal cannabis sales in Q3 2018 alone.

It would also be nice to be able to choose strain, strength and have hybrids available.

It'll be legal in the UK inside the next 10-20 years, the dominoes are toppling already.

Let’s just hope the pressure groups that want to cock up the country for the sake of feeling less persecuted over their own habits don’t succeed then.

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aeropilot said:

smifffymoto said:

Trophy Husband said:

TameRacingDriver said:

smifffymoto said:

No but everyone that does enjoy a joint will become an unemployable bum.

What a load of st.

Indeed. Made me snigger into my coffee!!
I know some seriously motivated, successful and wealthy users who have been smoking since their Uni days. I suggest laying off the Daily Mail? Its garbage is addictive.

Obviousley I needed to put a smiley on that comment but thought people would see through the comment.
The odd smoke now and then does very little harm but heavy user become fked by it.My son was ready to jump off a motorway bridge because off canabis and the psychosis it caused.2 years of utter hell for my family so don’t say I know nothing about drugs.Sitting in support groups listening to other parents who deal with the st end of cannabis use.

One of my aunts (now in her mid 80's) has had to deal with it for over 30 years, because of my cousin's heavy use of the past 40 years, having to support him through most of his later adult life because he couldn't work. Last I heard my cousin is now virtually a permanent resident in a psychiatric institution.

Whilst I never had any issues as an occasional user in my youth, one of my family had a psychotic episode with the joy of voices telling them to kill themselves, then required treatment for several months, couldn't sleep on their own, couldn't process anything complex (like more than 2 things on a dinner plate), and this went on for several months. They were not a heavy user, in fact much less than me over a shorter period.

Talking with the relevant mental health teams, their view was that c90%+ of cases like this (rapid onset, no history, under 20) were due to drugs, most often cannabis.

So whilst it's likely the majority will not suffer significant harm, there are potentially life changing side effects especially for youngsters.

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Brave Fart said:

Well of course I have, and I mentioned diet. No government is going to allow smoking, eating or any other form of ingesting something currently illegal that would add to the list of "things that are bad for you". It would be a total reversal of public health policy.
Meanwhile, those of you saying "the war on drugs is lost. Legalise it." Would you apply that logic to child sex abuse then, or burglary? "Let's make everything legal then the criminals will go away!"
The last thing society needs is more pyscho-active substance consumption. And don't give me that "what about alcohol?" argument. We are where we are with booze and tobacco, no going back. That is not an argument for relaxing the rules. See public health policy above.

Very good summary there

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dvs_dave said:

Ridiculous comparison. You need to update your knowledge base around Marijuana. You have very outdated and rhetoric based opinion on the topic.

Very true as its a lot more potent than back in the day

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Similar to a previous poster, a lad two doors away lives with his parents at 51. Hardly leaves his room and never leaves the house. They’ve given up on him. It started as a few joints a month in his teens.

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If cannabis really fks up say 5% of those who use it, it seems they are kept the other side of a very thick wall by the 95% who don’t have any issues.
It’s Russian roulette though who is affected and no way should be legalised just so the 95% can get it cheaper/feel less guilty or whatever.

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moanthebairns said:

I really can't be arsed to go into all this, but you know Anti Depressants can take anywhere from 1-2 months to have an effect. Your blaming a prescription drugs that are clinically proven to reduce suicide in the mentally ill.
These pills didn't cause people to jump off a bridge. Their life in the build up to them going on them did.

We are all mentally ill it’s just the degree.

Many pills are known for suicide eg the anti smoking one, and Russian roulette again as to how it affects individuals. Put cannabis into the mix and hey presto an outwardly normal individual can become bat st crazy it’s too dangerous to piss about with.

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 19th February 18:57

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Ahbefive said:

Is anything he said incorrect and non-factual?

This bit:

"Almost 50% of those who go through with surgery or procedures to change their gender end up trying to commit suicide.

Yet it doesn’t stop the progressives that have infiltrated our education system from encouraging young children to go through with it. "

Is total horsest.

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Legalise, control (strength, strains, etc) and tax it; the war on drugs is a waste of time, money and resource, it has hardly made any headway in 40 / 50 years.

Ring fence the tax it generates for the NHS (inc. mental health), police / fire / forces, not instead of the current budgets but to supplement them.

It works in Canada, the US, the Netherlands, Portugal, Uruguay (not sure of the details) ...

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gregs656 said:

To be honest anyone who argues against legalisation needs to present to an explanation of why it has worked so well in Portugal but couldn't work anywhere else.

The 'what if' arguments are a bit of a waste of time when we have a perfectly good example of a country where the major 'what ifs' have failed to appear.

Where I currently live Cannabis has been effectively legal since I moved here although the actual law only came in a few months a go, I am not sure you would know if you visited here. It is not like the city has come grinding to a halt because people can buy it online.

Using Portugal as the yardstick for a way a country should be run doesn’t exactly reinforce you argument, or indeed any argument.

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gregs656 said:

V6 Pushfit said:

Using Portugal as the yardstick for a way a country should be run doesn’t exactly reinforce you argument, or indeed any argument.

What a surprise that you choose not to deal with the substance of my point but make a facile remark instead; there are none so blind as those who will not see.

Portugal was your great example of how society could work.

I just enlightened viewers of the facts.

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designforlife said:

Cannabis absolutely doesn't cause mental health problems. if they surface after smoking, they were already there....cannabis can exacerbate some mental issues for sure (for me it actually really really helps my anxiety problems I've had since i was a kid)....

Utter bks, we all have (every person on the planet has) mental health issues. Its just a case of degree.

Cannabis can turn a dormant MH issue into a life changing one.

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Ahbefive said:

Imagine the Police time that would be freed up and the revenue generated for various other uses.

The Police would be able to focus on far less trivial things than someone getting stoned.

Yes they would be quite busy carting people off to loony bin

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Ahbefive said:

Is that what they are doing currently?

Yes and it wastes police time already so it would become a huge problem

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Ahbefive said:

Any links or facts to back that up? Or are you just making it up? Why would it change if it was legal?

Where have you been in the last 10 years?
Alternatively look it up yourself, read the papers, speak to the police or look at the threads on PH about it.

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Have you googled it yet ?

Or are you going to carry on asking for facts from me that are widely available should you wish to put minimal effort into finding out, and indeed should have done before you demanded full disclosure on something you should already know.

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Ahbefive said:

I'm not googling your made up bullst. I googled my own facts that there were 4million weed smokers in the UK. You do your own fact finding and find your own statistics. How many of those 4million needed rushing the the "loony bin"?

Edited by Ahbefive on Saturday 23 February 08:43

If you can’t be arsed to google it yourself then don’t query it then!

If you did then you would see it’s fact. 40% of police time spent in MH issues.

Then put this into the mix, and to make it easy you only have to read the first 10 words:

https://www.rethink.org/diagnosis-treatment/condit...