Man jailed for sexual activity with fake 19 year old
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-4...
He met a ‘woman’ on a dating app who claimed she was 19 (used fake name), he pleasured himself in front of her, she dressed up for him in a body sticking, he took photos and shared them with his mate... he then discovers she was only 12.
He’s now jailed for 2 and a half years and will have life on the sex offenders register.
Seems unjust considering she had lied about her age?
He met a ‘woman’ on a dating app who claimed she was 19 (used fake name), he pleasured himself in front of her, she dressed up for him in a body sticking, he took photos and shared them with his mate... he then discovers she was only 12.
He’s now jailed for 2 and a half years and will have life on the sex offenders register.
Seems unjust considering she had lied about her age?
Nickgnome said:
Roman Rhodes said:
dudleybloke said:
Will the girl be prosecuted for fraud by misrepresentation?
Of course not.
That's fOf course not.
ked up.There is something very wrong with any person who goes on line to get some form of self gratification with a stranger.
He deserves his sentence and the child deserves protection. Possibly her parents need parenting education but that is pure speculation on my part.
Nickgnome said:
Baby Shark doo doo doo doo said:
Nickgnome said:
Roman Rhodes said:
dudleybloke said:
Will the girl be prosecuted for fraud by misrepresentation?
Of course not.
That's fOf course not.
ked up.There is something very wrong with any person who goes on line to get some form of self gratification with a stranger.
He deserves his sentence and the child deserves protection. Possibly her parents need parenting education but that is pure speculation on my part.
Your attitude is scary.
Nickgnome said:
Baby Shark doo doo doo doo said:
Why?
Because you consider a child can be responsible and thereby excuse the behaviour of an adult. To me it is scary that you can think a child can be the object of sexual desire.
Your average 12 year old will look like a child. However many will look younger, or in this case as the judge agrees (if you'd bothered to read the article), look older. Don't forget that 12 is 2nd year of secondary school, many feel pressure to grow up quickly in an environment with students up to the age of 16/18 and so dress and apply makeup to look older. I certainly knew kids at the age of 11 in my class (back in the mid 90s) starting to reveal they'd had more than a kiss on the cheek or were determined to date a lad in the higher year groups. Also remember that some develop much quicker than others.
I doubt the chap would have even started talking to her if he knew she was only 12.
If you fail to understand that, I can only conclude that you're trying to provoke a reaction.
She said she was 19 and wrote as such on the dating site, used a fake name to prevent any checks, and the judge thought she looked older than she was too.
Apart from a written contract complete with original birth certificates and passports/ID, I'm not sure how he could have found out more information? (to be fair the chap in the article probably wishes he had done that). Even fake ID cards are easy to come by and are often very convincing.
Faced with someone who looks 19, claims she is 19, has passed the checks for the dating app to confirm she is over 18, what more can you expect the chap to do?
Legally, yes he has had activity with a 12 year old. However if he wasn't aware and has been mislead, it seems harsh to have a lifelong punishment.
Apart from a written contract complete with original birth certificates and passports/ID, I'm not sure how he could have found out more information? (to be fair the chap in the article probably wishes he had done that). Even fake ID cards are easy to come by and are often very convincing.
Faced with someone who looks 19, claims she is 19, has passed the checks for the dating app to confirm she is over 18, what more can you expect the chap to do?
Legally, yes he has had activity with a 12 year old. However if he wasn't aware and has been mislead, it seems harsh to have a lifelong punishment.
rover 623gsi said:
The judge did not say he thought the girl looked 19. He accepted that the man in question ‘thought she was over 16’.
Another report
www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/braggi...
http://www.gmp.police.uk/live/Nhoodv3.nsf/WebsiteP...
"Detective Constable Tina Jackson, of GMP’s Project Phoenix Bury team, said: “Carl Hodgson would have known the schoolgirl was under 16 and showed complete disregard for the law for his own sexual gratification.Another report
www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/braggi...
http://www.gmp.police.uk/live/Nhoodv3.nsf/WebsiteP...
Edited by rover 623gsi on Tuesday 9th April 12:33
Edited by rover 623gsi on Tuesday 9th April 12:35
“In reality he did not care and saw an opportunity to satisfy his own sexual urges which he then bragged about to his friends."
A shame that the BBC hadn't reported that part
Countdown said:
I have 3 (I win 
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In seriousness, my experience from attending umpteen parents evenings all the way up to and including Year 13 (Upper sixth in old money).
1. Girls seem to want to dress "older" than they are, in terms of makeup and the clothes they wear.
2. It can be VERY difficult to tell the difference between the older girls and the younger teachers.
Reminds me of an ex-girlfriend who had just started a teaching job. She was only 5ft2 but usually wore high heels to gain a few inches. Walks into the school wearing her Converse pumps and plain makeup so she didn't look too glamourous, goes to the staff area and was told off by another teacher as she was "in the teachers only area and out of uniform" )In seriousness, my experience from attending umpteen parents evenings all the way up to and including Year 13 (Upper sixth in old money).
1. Girls seem to want to dress "older" than they are, in terms of makeup and the clothes they wear.
2. It can be VERY difficult to tell the difference between the older girls and the younger teachers.
They ended up good friends despite the comical start
irocfan said:
let's be honest here Frank7 - there's a certain subset on here including one particular throbber who will try and twist everything to their own viewpoint. The best thing to do is ignore them - without the oxygen of responding the fktards will, hopefully, disappear
ktards will, hopefully, disappear
Pretty much this
It’s very odd
techiedave said:
Frank7 said:
I didn’t downplay what allegedly happened to the guy in the news report, “being forced to have sex with 3 or 4 women per day”, at least I wasn’t trying to, and I don’t think that I did.
Of course, the paragons of virtue on here, will all be desperately trying to recall my OP now, in order to ‘cherry pick’ phrases that make it appear that I WAS downplaying what happened.
I was merely trying to say that the initial reaction of the average Joe, on hearing, or reading of that news item, would be, “how lucky can one guy be?”
I wasn’t saying that that reaction would be a good one, just that it would BE the reaction.
I also believed that the average Joe reading my post would see that that was ALL that I was saying, NOT that it was something I approved of.
Dave appeared to get that, but for whatever reason, other ostensibly intelligent posters who probably ‘got it’ too, had their own agendas, and began to shovel the opprobrium.
What I find really pathetic is that the thread gets removed for presumably being unsuitable. Fair enough I can only recall it to a certain point. Quite probably after that point some unsuitable baiting and name calling occurred.Of course, the paragons of virtue on here, will all be desperately trying to recall my OP now, in order to ‘cherry pick’ phrases that make it appear that I WAS downplaying what happened.
I was merely trying to say that the initial reaction of the average Joe, on hearing, or reading of that news item, would be, “how lucky can one guy be?”
I wasn’t saying that that reaction would be a good one, just that it would BE the reaction.
I also believed that the average Joe reading my post would see that that was ALL that I was saying, NOT that it was something I approved of.
Dave appeared to get that, but for whatever reason, other ostensibly intelligent posters who probably ‘got it’ too, had their own agendas, and began to shovel the opprobrium.
However we have another poster (whom Frank has encountered elsewhere ) openly referring to other posters as paedophiles and fascists.
And trolling from thread to thread without any form of moderation being applied to him/her in any way
Delightful.
Don’t always agree with Frank’s posts, however he’s always seemed polite and open in what he types. Only thing he is guilty of is not having a legal professional proof-read his posts to prevent other posters twisting his words in some bizarre form of self-gratification.
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