Police Officer killed on duty
Discussion
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-49368649
Tragic and an awful reminder of the dangers officer can face at any time
Tragic and an awful reminder of the dangers officer can face at any time
Greendubber said:
Horrific, thoughts with PC Harper's family, friends and colleagues.
11 people in custody.
Its been a s
t week, Met Bobby stabbed, West Mids Bobby run over and still in hospital with horrific injuries and now this 
I thought the same to be fair. One of the darker weeks11 people in custody.
Its been a s
t week, Met Bobby stabbed, West Mids Bobby run over and still in hospital with horrific injuries and now this Nasty week for more serous injuries. Hopefully they'll get a result for this one.
The death penalty shouldn't be re-introduced.
Rovinghawk. For some reason he doesn't want to use his long-term troll account anymore.
The death penalty shouldn't be re-introduced.
Vaud said:
Agammemnon said:
Morality is not relevant; efficacy is. If a death penalty is found to be a punishment better suited to the purpose then it should be available. If not, then not.
What was your previous user name, out of interest? I recognise your posting style but can't quite place it.I guess the thread was always likely to go along this route.
W12GT said:
The people committing these acts of violence have no morals and thus should be treated as the animals they are.
Too many people have become soft and this is wholly the reason that crime has become so violent and prolific.
It should be introduced where there is NO DOUBT of the person being the perpetrator ie CCTV and DNA etc.
Not much evidence in criminology to support that as the cause / effect. Too many people have become soft and this is wholly the reason that crime has become so violent and prolific.
It should be introduced where there is NO DOUBT of the person being the perpetrator ie CCTV and DNA etc.
Vaud said:
Who are "they"?
And what laws aren’t they subject to ?Hopefully a good few of those arrested will be nicked, charged and subsequently imprisoned for a long time for breaking various laws.
Thoughts are with the officer’s family. It’s terrible that he was on his own in such a situation.
I don't think the death penalty will ever reapper in the UK so it's irrelevant anyway.
I don't know. Perhaps they are more, equally or less 'brazen' now compared to 'years ago'.
markcoznottz said:
Even you would have to admit travellers are more brazen nowadays. Years ago a bit of metal theft, dodgy tarmacing.
Are they? I don't know. Perhaps they are more, equally or less 'brazen' now compared to 'years ago'.
Cantaloupe said:
Don't get your hopes up, it's not going to be a murder charge if he was struck by a car.
Difficult to prove the action was premeditated with an intention to kill .
No-one will spend much time in stir, mark my words.
Pre-mediation is irrelevant, but you may be right, vehicle deaths are usually not murder. Difficult to prove the action was premeditated with an intention to kill .
No-one will spend much time in stir, mark my words.
227bhp said:
Gary29 said:
essayer said:
CPS: "If the vehicle was intentionally used as a weapon to kill or commit grievous bodily harm, a charge of murder may be considered."
https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/road-traffic...
How do you prove which of the 10 animals was driving the vehicle?https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/road-traffic...
Fibres of the clothing they are wearing is another avenue to explore (being on the driver's seat).
If there's a collision and airbag deployment that's often an excellent way of gathering evidence as it eliminates the "I have driven the car before / earlier in the day".
poo at Paul's said:
citizensm1th said:
If one thing is to come out of this tragedy i hope it is a national crack down on traveller types when ever they break the law. If the government won't do it i hope the various police services start to prioritise the illegal activities of these people.
It is totally unacceptable that this can happen because these people believe they can get away with their crimes
Sadly there will be plenty of liberal utopian It is totally unacceptable that this can happen because these people believe they can get away with their crimes
s who don't live in the real fking world that will stand up for these scumbags supposed rights, in fact they will be queuing up to get their fking ugly pierced mugs on the telly, except Tuesdays when they have to pick up the giro. In rural areas, we have been putting up with s
t from these s for decades, and in that time, the law, and often, sadly, law enforcers have stepped away from the problem, and these "people" have exploited that, rather than appreciate a softer approach and start trying to be not such a bunch of s. The stress, hassle and mayhem they cause in and increasingly for miles and miles around their ironically named traveller camps, is just not appreciated by c. 80% of the population, who's lives are not directly affected by it. But for some genuine, hard working, conforming tax paying communities, they are a proper scurge.
I assume start the reason Police don't investigate gypsy related crime is largely because of low manpower allied to low probability of securing convictions versus their target driven politically decided targets not because of some concerted campaign about "rights".
Brooking10 said:
I assume start the reason Police don't investigate gypsy related crime is largely because of low manpower allied to low probability of securing convictions versus their target driven politically decided targets not because of some concerted campaign about "rights".
They're the most disproportionately over-represented group in prison. Not sure where 'don't investigate gypsy related crime' comes from given that.
La Liga said:
Brooking10 said:
I assume start the reason Police don't investigate gypsy related crime is largely because of low manpower allied to low probability of securing convictions versus their target driven politically decided targets not because of some concerted campaign about "rights".
They're the most disproportionately over-represented group in prison. Not sure where 'don't investigate gypsy related crime' comes from given that.
I had assume that stuff like tax investigations, B&E on unused land etc was simply too difficult / time consuming to secure convictions on.
Your stat though further underlines the point that whilst it makes for good frothing the "they're protected by do gooders" is patently b
ks.Brooking10 said:
La Liga said:
Brooking10 said:
I assume start the reason Police don't investigate gypsy related crime is largely because of low manpower allied to low probability of securing convictions versus their target driven politically decided targets not because of some concerted campaign about "rights".
They're the most disproportionately over-represented group in prison. Not sure where 'don't investigate gypsy related crime' comes from given that.
I had assume that stuff like tax investigations, B&E on unused land etc was simply too difficult / time consuming to secure convictions on.
Your stat though further underlines the point that whilst it makes for good frothing the "they're protected by do gooders" is patently b
ks.La Liga said:
think the stuff that straddles between the police and council is the annoying part that seems like nothing is done i.e. pitch up on land. Matters where the process of getting court orders and other legal necessities are too slow and cumbersome. I'd support stronger legislation for that sort of thing.
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