Who Will replace Jeremy Corbyn as Labour Leader
Discussion
I think this is relevant as it's simply who should or shouldn't be the next Labour Leader.
Other posts are about the general future of or are rather general type threads
So far a couple of people seem to be suggesting they will be up for it.
One being Jess Phillips personally I find it quite laughable and lamentable.
Lisa Nandy is another one. I find her completely lightweight little more than a Labour version of Jo Swinson
Rebecca Long-Bailey looks to be the one that the Corbyn faction would like
Personally I just find it hard to see any of the bigger profile Labour MP's being up to it.
Other posts are about the general future of or are rather general type threads
So far a couple of people seem to be suggesting they will be up for it.
One being Jess Phillips personally I find it quite laughable and lamentable.
Lisa Nandy is another one. I find her completely lightweight little more than a Labour version of Jo Swinson
Rebecca Long-Bailey looks to be the one that the Corbyn faction would like
Personally I just find it hard to see any of the bigger profile Labour MP's being up to it.
What about this charming chap.
Lloyd Russell-Moyle
Seems to have the credentials to do the job.
https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/18102168.lloyd-rus...
Sure some in Momentum will be thinking - He's a contender
Lloyd Russell-Moyle
Seems to have the credentials to do the job.
https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/18102168.lloyd-rus...
Sure some in Momentum will be thinking - He's a contender
Countdown said:
Keir Starmer or Yvette Cooper would be the sensible choice IMO.
Yvette Cooper - just no. May not be a too radical whack job but that's the only thing positive I could say about her
MellowshipSlinky said:
Just been reading about Lisa Nandy - I reckon a decent candidate, but she’s described how she got abuse from Corbyn supporters within the party when she didn’t support his election as leader.
I guess she’s too centre for Momentum.
Lisa Nandy has no personality. Looks like she has just been told off and bleats on about poverty I guess she’s too centre for Momentum.
She is Labours version of Swinson
Taylor James said:
Corbyn and Momentum will install another hard leftist.
Darling Jess with a bit of luck.
The denial is strong with this shower.
HiDarling Jess with a bit of luck.
The denial is strong with this shower.
Not being sure if you mean Darling Jess as in Jess Phillips will be a hard leftist figure approved by Momentum ?
reason I post this is that she is despised by momentum.
But I may get your meaning wrong and you are saying Jess Phillips Rather than a hard leftist momentum figure
jonby said:
Jess Philips ? She is not a hard leftist. Or perhaps I'm mis-reading and you mean you'd prefer Jess over a hard leftist ?
She's not a blairite, but far closer to that end of the spectrum
She is arguably the most electable to the general population, but not to the members who actually get to vote on the next leader. I think she would be the most dangerous to the tories
Angela Raynor might be one to watch - she's of course being mentioned as a possible runner and she's difficult to pigenhole. She would probably pitch more centrally, but was close to and highly rated by corbyn/mcdonnell to potentially get the membership vote. Personally I think she would be political suicide for labour, but that's not my problem.
SNAP She's not a blairite, but far closer to that end of the spectrum
She is arguably the most electable to the general population, but not to the members who actually get to vote on the next leader. I think she would be the most dangerous to the tories
Angela Raynor might be one to watch - she's of course being mentioned as a possible runner and she's difficult to pigenhole. She would probably pitch more centrally, but was close to and highly rated by corbyn/mcdonnell to potentially get the membership vote. Personally I think she would be political suicide for labour, but that's not my problem.
I quoted and responded to Taylor James before scolling further.
About the only thing Jess Phillips has going for her is a high profile but I think she will be awful. But nowhere near as truly awful as Angela Rayner.
Rayner is a vile individual who has shown her sneering arrogance throughout the campaign
Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 16th December 18:09
well they arte off and 1st out is lady of the people Emily Thornberry
Cracking
But read this
"Lisa Nandy, Keir Starmer, Clive Lewis and David Lammy have indicated they are considering it.
Rebecca Long-Bailey, who is backed by a number of Corbyn allies, is highly likely to stand, along with Jess Phillips and possibly Yvette Cooper.
Read those 2 words
David Lammy
that's
David Lammy
Once again it's
David Lammy
The gift that keeps on giving
Cracking
But read this
"Lisa Nandy, Keir Starmer, Clive Lewis and David Lammy have indicated they are considering it.
Rebecca Long-Bailey, who is backed by a number of Corbyn allies, is highly likely to stand, along with Jess Phillips and possibly Yvette Cooper.
Read those 2 words
David Lammy
that's
David Lammy
Once again it's
David Lammy
The gift that keeps on giving
AJL308 said:
Realistically they need Keir Starmer. He's intelligent and is one of the very few possibles who who command any measure of respect from other world leaders and diplomats.
The thing is that he won't appeal to may people outside the South East as he's very Remain. Then again that may not make much difference once we've left as we won't be rejoining so he can bleat about it all he likes without being able to act on it.
To be honest it's difficult to see where the Labour Party goes now. They can't keep up this delusion of being for the "working classes" because the reality is that far fewer people see themselves as such today. On the Corbyn thread I mentioned that drivers on the Tyne & Wear Metro (one of the key Labour supporting areas) are on £46K a year, another poster said that while working off-shore in the 80's and on £50K some union types were trying to say they were being "exploited". Utter rubbish. My mates who are self employed who are builders, sparkies, plasterers and suchlike and who are absolutely coining it in don't see themselves in the traditional working class stereotype box. They all have new cars, newly refurbished houses in some cases foreign property and in one case just bought a massive bar/nightclub/restaurant abroad paid for by his work here. These people don't vote Labour - why would they vote to be financially raped by a bunch of deluded neo-communists who are more interested in bringing about "equality" by dragging the hard workers down rather than uplifting the rest?
Of the people I know who are still very staunch Labour, especially Corbyn Labour, all are either public employees (teachers, sorting office workers, local government) or creative types who design stuff on computers in semi-public jobs such as Uni's. Coincidentally the types of jobs which give you plenty of time to sit around and bump gums at your employers expense and are essentially jobs for life. I can't think of any who are the ones who are up at 7am digging the foundations for a new house extension or working till 10am fitting someones new bathroom. Espousing crazy communist theory is much easier when your own position is secure.
I can see Labour being reduced to being a lunatic fringe party with zero influence outside of London and a few other urban centres populated by trendy types unless very big changes happen very soon. Unless they elect someone like Starmer as their leader they are f
ked, quite honestly. They are not just out of touch with normal working people, they are utterly out of touch with reality. The problem will be exacerbated by them becoming even more unpleasant towards Jews and other minorities as they need someone to blame for their own lunacy and failure.
I really cannot pick any fault with that assessment.The thing is that he won't appeal to may people outside the South East as he's very Remain. Then again that may not make much difference once we've left as we won't be rejoining so he can bleat about it all he likes without being able to act on it.
To be honest it's difficult to see where the Labour Party goes now. They can't keep up this delusion of being for the "working classes" because the reality is that far fewer people see themselves as such today. On the Corbyn thread I mentioned that drivers on the Tyne & Wear Metro (one of the key Labour supporting areas) are on £46K a year, another poster said that while working off-shore in the 80's and on £50K some union types were trying to say they were being "exploited". Utter rubbish. My mates who are self employed who are builders, sparkies, plasterers and suchlike and who are absolutely coining it in don't see themselves in the traditional working class stereotype box. They all have new cars, newly refurbished houses in some cases foreign property and in one case just bought a massive bar/nightclub/restaurant abroad paid for by his work here. These people don't vote Labour - why would they vote to be financially raped by a bunch of deluded neo-communists who are more interested in bringing about "equality" by dragging the hard workers down rather than uplifting the rest?
Of the people I know who are still very staunch Labour, especially Corbyn Labour, all are either public employees (teachers, sorting office workers, local government) or creative types who design stuff on computers in semi-public jobs such as Uni's. Coincidentally the types of jobs which give you plenty of time to sit around and bump gums at your employers expense and are essentially jobs for life. I can't think of any who are the ones who are up at 7am digging the foundations for a new house extension or working till 10am fitting someones new bathroom. Espousing crazy communist theory is much easier when your own position is secure.
I can see Labour being reduced to being a lunatic fringe party with zero influence outside of London and a few other urban centres populated by trendy types unless very big changes happen very soon. Unless they elect someone like Starmer as their leader they are f
ked, quite honestly. They are not just out of touch with normal working people, they are utterly out of touch with reality. The problem will be exacerbated by them becoming even more unpleasant towards Jews and other minorities as they need someone to blame for their own lunacy and failure. Emily thornberry running for leadership.
She hasn't ran for anything in her life looking at those chubby digits she like to wave in peoples faces on QT.
Richard Burgon is the moron's moron "they said we wouldn't win last time"
Raynor? .Haha
Small mouth? Yes, that's exactly what the LP needs..a small mouth.
Kier the tear? (Always looks like hes about to start crying). Perhaps. Best of a bad bunch.
She hasn't ran for anything in her life looking at those chubby digits she like to wave in peoples faces on QT.
Richard Burgon is the moron's moron "they said we wouldn't win last time"
Raynor? .Haha
Small mouth? Yes, that's exactly what the LP needs..a small mouth.
Kier the tear? (Always looks like hes about to start crying). Perhaps. Best of a bad bunch.
Blib said:
It could be argued that it makes no difference who becomes leader.
The Labour Party, with its enthusiastic yet naive support is up against a ruthless, grown up outfit in the Tories. And that outfit smells blood.
This is not a university common room, safe-space environment. Your opposition fights tooth and nail to utterly destroy you.
Labour had better grow up and grow up fast, before it's sliced and diced.
I find myself nodding my head a little with this. I am sure that someone will be along shortly to correct me.The Labour Party, with its enthusiastic yet naive support is up against a ruthless, grown up outfit in the Tories. And that outfit smells blood.
This is not a university common room, safe-space environment. Your opposition fights tooth and nail to utterly destroy you.
Labour had better grow up and grow up fast, before it's sliced and diced.
From memory I recall the Tories as being a great forceful party (Under Mrs Thatcher). Since 1992 they have diluted a bit and they have had the issue of the EU hanging over them
For myself this whole thing has a feeling of deja vu about it Its reminiscent of the early 80s.
Dont like rolls said:
number 46 said:
Surely this is a piss take??? You can't be serious??? Wrong Daily is stupider than Magic Grandpa and that takes some doing!!!
Don't believe the Zionist funded press, Rebecca will carry the reform flag forward to build the Labour vote and hold the Tory lie makers to account.A bunch of starstuck thick nerdy types sit round her cross legged in an assembly circle They sway slowly from side to side with fixed rigid smiles.
Then at the end of the song Jeremy Corbyn dressed as a grizzled old father Christmas walks over and kisses her attentively on her cheek.
Then the presents are opened and the circle of nerds hastily unwrap their copies of Momentum for the masses and congratulate each other.
Then 2 other elphin figures walk over
techiedave said:
I imagine her in a Santa outfit singing Santa Baby seductively. A bit like Kylie Minogues version but with more sauciness
A bunch of starstuck thick nerdy types sit round her cross legged in an assembly circle They sway slowly from side to side with fixed rigid smiles.
Then at the end of the song Jeremy Corbyn dressed as a grizzled old father Christmas walks over and kisses her attentively on her cheek.
Then the presents are opened and the circle of nerds hastily unwrap their copies of Momentum for the masses and congratulate each other.
Then 2 other elphin figures walk over
What happens next! A bunch of starstuck thick nerdy types sit round her cross legged in an assembly circle They sway slowly from side to side with fixed rigid smiles.
Then at the end of the song Jeremy Corbyn dressed as a grizzled old father Christmas walks over and kisses her attentively on her cheek.
Then the presents are opened and the circle of nerds hastily unwrap their copies of Momentum for the masses and congratulate each other.
Then 2 other elphin figures walk over
Dont like rolls said:
We were not radical enough, the press forced JC into an unfair corner and attacked him with made up stories of Anti-Semitism added to lies about our Fully Costed proposals to bring the Uk together and move forward taking a lead in Europe and showing the advantage of Radical Socialism to our European friends.
The BBC and the Press Barron's using millionaires money is what happened, The election was stolen by lies and outside money/influence.
We will regroup, fly the radical socialist flag and keep growing with Momentum.
Labour will hold this Tory government's feet to the fire, the Uk needs Labour to bring balance to our present (till next time) government.
The delusion is strong with this one, this must be a badly programmed bot, people can't be this dim surely?The BBC and the Press Barron's using millionaires money is what happened, The election was stolen by lies and outside money/influence.
We will regroup, fly the radical socialist flag and keep growing with Momentum.
Labour will hold this Tory government's feet to the fire, the Uk needs Labour to bring balance to our present (till next time) government.
Edited by Dont like rolls on Wednesday 18th December 16:44
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