What is the one thing London needs most?
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I ask, because developer Avanton thinks it needs an alligator park
And judging by the size of the alligator in the CGI used in the story, not just baby ones either!
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https://www.egi.co.uk/news/old-kent-road-gasholder...
And judging by the size of the alligator in the CGI used in the story, not just baby ones either!
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s1962a said:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/may/23/u...
https://news.cityoflondon.gov.uk/uk-financial-serv...
https://www.centreforcities.org/press/london-gener...
Have some respect, you ungrateful gits.
Respect needs to be deserved. Nothing you have linked to indicates that it is. https://news.cityoflondon.gov.uk/uk-financial-serv...
https://www.centreforcities.org/press/london-gener...
Have some respect, you ungrateful gits.
heads that live there. Feed them to the alligators and bring back the normal people.Nickgnome said:
London is a fantastically cosmopolitan, multicultural, vibrant city. It was without doubt the best place I ever worked.
Nobody forces anyone to live in London and many that do not like the pace move away.
London, along with the South east contributes billions to the UK economy. If you want to see how much there are a number of sources available.
The best and the bright migrate from all over the UK and abroad to live and work there.
Some people are jealous and envious of its success. Resentment is a very negative trait.
It’s entirely within the naysayers responsibility to make a similar success of the areas from which they come.
If you don’t think your politicians are standing up for your respective areas then look in a mirror to find the culprits.
I think that’s a load of old balls. Look at the faces of the people on your average commuter train and you’ll see what it’s like to work in London:.Nobody forces anyone to live in London and many that do not like the pace move away.
London, along with the South east contributes billions to the UK economy. If you want to see how much there are a number of sources available.
The best and the bright migrate from all over the UK and abroad to live and work there.
Some people are jealous and envious of its success. Resentment is a very negative trait.
It’s entirely within the naysayers responsibility to make a similar success of the areas from which they come.
If you don’t think your politicians are standing up for your respective areas then look in a mirror to find the culprits.
Only tourists and people who weren’t born near the place enjoy it.
Nickgnome said:
You can think what you like. It won’t make it a fact. If you work in London and do not like it move away, it’s obviously not for you.
Commuting is a pain, because of the degradation of services over the last 15 years mainly due to increased demand and poor management. I’ve commuted from different directions so knew the services pretty well.
Nobody is forced to work in London.
I speak from experience of working with hundreds if not thousands of people, socialising after work, visiting the theatres, restaurants, clubs, galleries etc. etc.
I saw a vibe which I had not seen in any other city. I would admit that more recently Manchester and Birmingham seem to have a similar feel on a smaller scale.
Yes we both have opinions and opinion isn’t fact, however fewer people are agreeing with your opinion.Commuting is a pain, because of the degradation of services over the last 15 years mainly due to increased demand and poor management. I’ve commuted from different directions so knew the services pretty well.
Nobody is forced to work in London.
I speak from experience of working with hundreds if not thousands of people, socialising after work, visiting the theatres, restaurants, clubs, galleries etc. etc.
I saw a vibe which I had not seen in any other city. I would admit that more recently Manchester and Birmingham seem to have a similar feel on a smaller scale.
I was working in Manchester today and agree it’s a brilliant city - great musical history, nightlife, places to eat and fewer knobs in red trousers gafawwing outside the pubs. More beggars though.
Don’t like Leeds but really like Newcastle.
Just waiting for the kids to leave home then I’ll leave the south for good. It’s a festering toilet and I say that as a born and bred southerner.
s1962a said:
Part of it is envy I would imagine.
Why? The reason I cannot stand it is the people. There are too many of them and none of them have any manners, I find it stressful. Train links, even the new Thameslink doesn’t work and the tube is antiquated and full of smelly freaks. However all the decently paid jobs with major companies are in London. Sure as hell don’t work there by choice - I need the money! Not for much longer though.
Nickgnome said:
If it’s not too personal where are you based?
I now live in a Bedfordshire village which over time has become consumed by incomers and over development. Shame as it used to be really quiet. An hour into Blackfriars so really convenient when the train works.Before that grew up around Guildford and at the time London was our closest big city for going out.
Tried not to but always ended up working there as when you live here that’s where all the well paid jobs are. London has always been part of my life and certainly 35 years ago it and the area I grew up in was very different. I’ve witnessed first hand the south become increasingly overcrowded.
Also spent time in the States for work and agree, beautiful country but just really odd and full of contradictions.
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Nickgnome said:
Guildford is a lovely city and area. I lived in Woking. Both great commute links.
When I lived in Stotfold if I needed to get into London used Arlesford.
I do worry about the NIMBY attitude when people move somewhere then want to put a brake on any more growth.
Coming from the West Country and living is the beautiful part of SW Wales I know first hand how the local population can be overcome by newcomers who then want to prevent any future development especially affordable housing.
It should be mandated that all local authorities provide growth in every village and town no matter how small those places are. It needs to be a small percentage every year, not a sudden disproportionate huge estate.
The South is not overcrowded. It really isn’t. There are so many places and areas if you cycle or walk where you will rarely see a soul.
The big issue is people are not prepared to travel just a few miles and are generally quite lazy.
I went to school in Guildford and Woking but haven’t been back for years. It wasn’t gentrified but I remember the train station car park being full of Porsche 911s and 928s in the mid 80’s owned by the emerging yuppie population commuting to the city. My favourite was a very nice 635CSI BMW. When I lived in Stotfold if I needed to get into London used Arlesford.
I do worry about the NIMBY attitude when people move somewhere then want to put a brake on any more growth.
Coming from the West Country and living is the beautiful part of SW Wales I know first hand how the local population can be overcome by newcomers who then want to prevent any future development especially affordable housing.
It should be mandated that all local authorities provide growth in every village and town no matter how small those places are. It needs to be a small percentage every year, not a sudden disproportionate huge estate.
The South is not overcrowded. It really isn’t. There are so many places and areas if you cycle or walk where you will rarely see a soul.
The big issue is people are not prepared to travel just a few miles and are generally quite lazy.
NIMBYism is a problem but it’s also disappointing when you find somewhere you really like, only for it to become consumed by the growing urban sprawl. It’s not even the number of houses or people, it’s how it feels to live somewhere that’s been allowed to decay because public services weren’t upgraded. Same roads, doctors surgeries and schools, just more people packed into the same space. That’s the same as happened to London.
Nickgnome said:
Spot on.
On the other hand, cannot believe this piece of art is 10 years old. Feels as fresh now as when I first saw it.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lVmmYMwFj1I
I love London. I love the history, the architecture, the hustle and bustle, the glamour, the buzz. But by that I mean central London though and not the rest. I don't enjoy driving through North London to get to the centre. I don't envy the people living in some of the crime-ridden parts or the gated, high - walled posh parts that feel so cold and isolated. Some of the suburbs and districts look so unfriendly and ugly.
I love the tube! Weirdo?
This is coming from a provincial who spends time there for work on occasions and quite rarely ventures down for pleasure, for a night over and a theatre trip. So yes might not be so appealing if I was to live there.
I can't understand why theres so much culture, so much to do and see there, so much opportunity, yet the kids are busy knifing each other! Isn't it a massive failure that these two realities can co-exist?
I do agree that this centralised economy is a bad thing. I do agree with shipping out some of the public funded professions and centres of work and investment to other towns and cities around the country. I don't say this through wishing London to lose out, simply to hope that they can handle a few departures and the gain for the other cities will outweigh their loss. The rest of the country needs to do better though in other ways. Infrastructure, culture, finance. Create a good bit of competition. Barring something cataclysmic, London will be the number one for centuries though. It's got so big. You can't begrudge it that.
I love the tube! Weirdo?
This is coming from a provincial who spends time there for work on occasions and quite rarely ventures down for pleasure, for a night over and a theatre trip. So yes might not be so appealing if I was to live there.
I can't understand why theres so much culture, so much to do and see there, so much opportunity, yet the kids are busy knifing each other! Isn't it a massive failure that these two realities can co-exist?
I do agree that this centralised economy is a bad thing. I do agree with shipping out some of the public funded professions and centres of work and investment to other towns and cities around the country. I don't say this through wishing London to lose out, simply to hope that they can handle a few departures and the gain for the other cities will outweigh their loss. The rest of the country needs to do better though in other ways. Infrastructure, culture, finance. Create a good bit of competition. Barring something cataclysmic, London will be the number one for centuries though. It's got so big. You can't begrudge it that.
Pan Pan Pan said:
valiant said:
98elise said:
Digga said:
Lord Marylebone said:
Don’t forget the famous saying:
“If you are tired of London you are tired of life”
Derived from the original words of Dr Samuel Johnson in 1777.
“Sir, when a man is tired of London, he is tired of life; for there is in London all that life can afford”
When a man is asked to pay over £5 a pint, he soon gets tired of London.“If you are tired of London you are tired of life”
Derived from the original words of Dr Samuel Johnson in 1777.
“Sir, when a man is tired of London, he is tired of life; for there is in London all that life can afford”
From the orginal works of Digga, 2019.
Handed over a twenty pound note and it turned into a silent Mexican stand-off. I’m waiting for change and the barman’s waiting for the rest of the money!
Certainly moderated our drinking that night!
I love London having lived and worked most of my life there but it can be very expensive and it does seem there’s a London tax to be paid for the privilege.
I did much the same thing at Excel a little while ago when charged 20 quid for two glasses of a very indifferent red. I said I only wanted two glasses of red, not the whole bottle
But it’s not too bad in there. You can spend your time eyeing up all the hot Russian prostitutes.
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